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  Photography Forum: Photography Help Forum: 
  Q. black subject on snow background

Asked by Kameron Mele    (K=0) on 12/10/2005 
Hello,
I am going to try to photograph (using a manual camera with 400 speed film) my two black labs against the snow in my back yard as a christmas gift. How can i adjust my settings so that both the black dogs and the bright snow are exposed correctly?

Thank you very much



    


Matej Maceas
 Matej Maceas  Donor  (K=24381) - Comment Date 12/10/2005
Colour or B&W? Negative or slide?





 Kameron Mele   (K=0) - Comment Date 12/10/2005
color, negative




Roger Williams
 Roger Williams  Donor  (K=86139) - Comment Date 12/10/2005
It may not be possible; the constrast range could be just too long. The colour film with the greatest latitude in my experience is Fuji New Pro 400. If you bracket the exposure (taking shots with one or two stops more--and less--than the meter suggests, you may find one that is just right. There is always the possibility of using PaintShop Pro or PhotoShop to reduce the contrast.





 stuart kennedy   (K=172) - Comment Date 12/11/2005
Try a green or yellow green filter. The numbers escape me at the moment. You might be able to underexpose+fill flash. Experiment, thats half the fun.





 Mark Peterson   (K=3452) - Comment Date 12/11/2005
Use exposure compansation and set to +1 to +1.5 stops over.Your camera will try to read the snow as 18% gray which will make the black subjects loose most or all of their details.




Michael Kanemoto
 Michael Kanemoto   (K=22115) - Comment Date 12/18/2005
I did this a while ago... Spot meter on your hand (roughly close to 20%) to get a rough metering, and then go ahead and shoot. You will blow out the snow.

The other approach would be to meter on concrete or something close by then go and shoot.

My shots had a great exposure for the dog, looked great, but the snow was completely blown out. My solution was to use a very narrow DOF and just roll with it. Turned out OK.




Dave Holland
 Dave Holland   (K=13074) - Comment Date 12/25/2005
Shoot next to yellow snow, you'll need less dynamic range ;>).

Seriously, though, you are setting yourself up for a problem by trying to include both the snow and the dogs. They say that politicians prefer tan colored dogs for better photo ops, as black dogs are really difficult. A black dog against a lot of white snow just doesn't work well.

Maybe hide some dog treats in the snow, then right after that zoom in on their white, snow dusted noses. You'll get the seasonal appearance and close enough cropping for memorable pics. Your dogs will thank you as well.




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