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  Q. Flash Shadows
Sophie Jo
Asked by Sophie Jo    (K=135) on 3/28/2009 
Hey. I'm probably doing something really obviously wrong, but every time i use my flash I get these shadows at the bottom (see attatchment) and it's really annoying on close-up photos! It's the attatched flash on my Pentax *istD, and it does this every time, whatever the angle. And, before you ask, no I'm not sticking my finger over the flash! :P
I can't afford to spend loads on a professional lighting kit, but what can i do to improve the terrible quality of my photographs? please advise!

Thanks, Sophie


    





 Jeroen Wenting  Donor  (K=25317) - Comment Date 3/29/2009
Use a shorter (physically, not focal length) or smaller diameter lens.
What you're seeing is the shadow cast by your lens onto the scene, as the lens is blocking part of the light coming from the flash.

Another option is to move the flash away from the lens.
That's one reason many flash units are rather tall, and why there are units that mount to the side of the camera with a bracket.






 Paul Schofield   (K=5970) - Comment Date 3/29/2009
Are you using a lens hood? I have had this problem before and found it was due to the lens hood.





Sophie Jo
 Sophie Jo   (K=135) - Comment Date 3/30/2009
No I'm not using a lens hood, and the lens I am using is the one that came with the camera, so surely it shouldn't be blocking the flash?!
Thank you both very much for your advice

Sophie




Doyle D. Chastain
 Doyle D. Chastain  Donor  (K=101119) - Comment Date 3/30/2009
I dunno, Sophie. I'd bet the farm it was a lens shadow from a top, camera mounted flash. Easy enough to check...tape a thimble on top the end of the lens casing and see if it shows in the shadow. ;o)

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~





Rashed Abdulla
 Rashed Abdulla  Donor  (K=163889) - Comment Date 4/1/2009
Jeroen Wenting , why dont you show us an example of using a flash ?

Some thing out of your own flash work, dont you have one ?






Rashed Abdulla
 Rashed Abdulla  Donor  (K=163889) - Comment Date 4/1/2009
Dear Sophie Jo , one source of light for such set up would for sure give the shade you been refering to.

such set up requires more than one source of light ( flashs ), and not from the centre of the setup but from 2 sides of the set up.






Sophie Jo
 Sophie Jo   (K=135) - Comment Date 4/2/2009
OK, after taping a convenient hairclip to my lens,I have found that the lens to flash height ratio is a design flaw! My own lens is causing a shadow!

Rashed- There was more than one source of light in my photo, one from directly above, besides my flash (hence the horrible orangey light)

Thanks for all of your help everyone, but a rather disappointin conclusion it seems. Especially since my camera doesn't work with any of my other lenses. I'm thinking a new camera may be in order...
Sophie




Dave Arnold
 Dave Arnold   (K=55680) - Comment Date 4/2/2009
I think you are barking up the wrong tree when you say a new camera will solve your problem. And just because that lens came with the camera does not mean it is a design flaw. Was the lens a part of a kit offered by a dealer or a kit direct from the manufacturer. Mox nix (a rhetorical question), since even with my Canon's the on-board flash will leave a shadow with various lenses at close-up framing.

The answer to your problem has been given already: buy an external flash (preferably synced to your particular camera) that attaches to your hot shoe. That raises the flash well above the on-board flash and will work much better in other terms. And, if you want to go overboard, splurge on an add-on flash bracket and chord. It will be much cheaper than replacing a camera and lens, which is not the problem in the first place.




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