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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 8/16/2009
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Thanks a lot, Dan!
Well, in case you had to spend a day working in some IT office of a bank, even 20:00 would be very very late! ;-) Simply because working for them is just wasting time.
Cheers!
Nick
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Dan Wilson
{K:21104} 8/3/2009
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Very nice I like this a lot nice, it is such a simple and powerful view. Is 10.22 late for you ;-) hahaha. I really like the line of lights in this shot also as it adds some nice perspective points and interest in the shot.
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/25/2009
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Why, you have exactly the same problems with digital cameras too, Avi. Solitary photons in the darkness can (and will) hit your CCD anyway. Plus: You have in addition the problem of "active" noise from the current supply to the CCD. Thanks heavens the film remains only "passive" in this sense and thus knows no problems of the sevond kind.
But also thanks heavens the "passive" problems due to unwanted photons hitting the CCD in darkness can be eliminated by well designed circuitry that "recognizes" them and neutralizes the undesired effect. So, you rather remain with the second kind of problems and more or less on the same need for experimental work and a bottle. ;-) After laughable 400 shots you are... finished, in the wide meaning of the word! ;-)
Cheers!
Nick
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Avi
{K:70138} 7/24/2009
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There are times when I feel ok to have moved from film to digital :)
400 shots... hmmmmmm... well, you sure need the 'parallel' bottle :):):)
have a great weekend !
Avi
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/24/2009
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It was an ISO 200, Avi. Normally it handles darkness quite well. For example the darkness on the image "Illuminated wine barrel" that I posted today appears to be OK. So, sometimes it works and some other times it doesn't. :-/
Perhaps it has to do with shutter speed. At fast shutters you give the solitary photons that always travel here and there almost no time to hit the film or CCD. So the darkness is really black. At intermediate shutter speeds some few photons have the opportunity to hit the film or CCD and so the darkness gets "spoiled" here and there. At even slower speeds the distribution of the hits on film or CCD gets more and more uniform due to the probability of the hits to take place on many different parts of the film or CCD. So the darkness starts getting less and less black. Its hue goes more and more uniformly toward the resulting hue that corresponds to the average energy (=frequency) of the arriving photons. Thus it seems to me that one has to avoid that range of intermediate speeds if the goal is to have a uniform tone of darkness.
But if (and only if) this is a reasonable consideration, then what is that "intermediate range of shutter speeds"? The only way to find it out for a given film or CCD on a given sensitivity would be to make an experimental series of shots, systematically for each EV and shutter speed, and generate a 3D-diagramm with EV, shutter speed and noise as the x, y and z axis respectively. A rather tedious work but this would be really experimenting, as experiments are always to be done for getting some clue about what is going on in reality.
Hmmm... Perhaps I'll do that for some Fuji film. I mean, what the heck? For some 20 EV and 20 speeds I would need only 400 shots. Enough time for a bottle parallel to the experiment, since all scientific work is done in that fantastic mental state! PS would be too quick for that! ;-)
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/23/2009
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Unfortunately the exposure was far less than perfect, Vandy. The darkness suffered too much. See also the other messages and my attachment for Avi here.
Nonetheless, thanks a lot!
Nick
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Avi
{K:70138} 7/23/2009
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About the blacks: I am not sure, but I am guessing it could be due to your scanner. Also, what ISO setting were you using ? In my camera (which is a very basic DSLR) I have seen that > 400 usually yields noise. And that can be color noise as well.
The final resort, of course, is Photoshop. Let me know if you want the "PS" way :)
avi
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/22/2009
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Thanks a lot, Yen!
The image is unfortunately problematic in the darkness, as Roby already pointed out. It should be black there, completely black.
As about ghost express and the like, I rather prefer the realms if the real. It was just the clock and a series of lights in darkness that I wanted to capture, just as they are seen by everybody standing there.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/22/2009
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Thanks a lot for the nice detailed comment, Roby!
Indeed, I did upload another very similar one recently. And I see now the problems of the noise in the dark too. I think that I'll have to retry this until I get a real balck darkness around the lights. Something like my attachment for Marcio yould be much better, I guess.
Cheers and thanks a lot!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/22/2009
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I remembered your words when I waked up today, Avi. Sigh.. Again 11:00?? Again??? ;-)
But the image will have to be retried. The darkness was not satisfactory. (See also attachment for Marcio.) It proves to be very hard to get a rich, uniform black with no artefacts whatsoever.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/22/2009
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Thanks a lot Yazeed!
Unfortunately the exposure didn't get the darkness as it should appear. See also attachment for Marcio.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/22/2009
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Well, nit as perfectly exposed, Gary. Take a look at the attachment for Marcio.
Still, many thanks!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/22/2009
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And beautifil thanks, Vijay!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/22/2009
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All this would have been much better if the darkness was really darkness, Gustavo. (See attachment for Marcio.) So I guess I will have to send AC/DC to some travel at the speed of light again.
BTW, you don't return younger. You return younger than the age of people you left behind. So even this kind of journey doesn't turn back the biological clock. It only makes it slower *in comparison* to the clock of those that stay back. But of coirse the mental clock stops completely at the age of 18-22 when listening to AC/DC. Not the speed of light is the cure but the insanity of rock! ;-)
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/22/2009
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Thanks a lot, Marcio!
Now that I see it under moderate light I also see its problem. Grrrrrrrr! The darkness is... not really darkness! It is not uniform rich black. I think that something like the attachment would be much better. Sigh! How many times will I have to try it again and again until it works?
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/22/2009
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Many thanks agaon, Malules!
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/22/2009
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Thanks a lot, Fabio!
Nick
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Vandy Neculae
{K:7990} 7/22/2009
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Nice composition, Nick.
Perfect exposure and great effect.
Vandi
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Yen I Lien
{K:1530} 7/21/2009
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Esta muy buena esta foto, da la sensacion del efecto expreso de la medianoche en una ciudad fantasma!!! da escalofrio de verdad!!!
Felicitaciones!!!
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Roberto Arcari Farinetti
{K:209486} 7/21/2009
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it seems remeber a similar shot, my dear nick,,...
very nice and powerful immage that i see a little texture (pixel-noise in a pastel black tones) in the dark!
maybe created a nice atmopshere..
i like it and best wishes
roby
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Avi
{K:70138} 7/21/2009
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well, perfect... in the sense that there can almost NEVER be the 'Early Morning series' from guys like us !!!!!! :):):)
cheers and good to see you back !
Avi
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M jalili
{K:69009} 7/20/2009
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Really I like it so so much ...........
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Billy Bloggs
{K:51043} 7/20/2009
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Perfectly exposed to get the effect, it's a cracking shot
Regards, Gary
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Vijay Kurhade
{K:10118} 7/20/2009
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beautiful;
take care
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Gustavo Scheverin
{K:164501} 7/20/2009
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Muy buena foto, de la serie, la que más me gusta. Los relojes siempre llaman la atención, tienen un carácter intemporal y abstracto. Mmmm, podría ser el momento del despegue, a la velocidad de la luz, de una nave espacial con destino a Betelgeuse a escuchar a AC/DC, con la ventaja de al regreso, estar mas jóvenes!!!...:-)
Un abrazo!,
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Marcio Janousek
{K:32538} 7/20/2009
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It is a fine Swiss watch..:)
A great view and perspective of light makes us realize the good depth of the place ...nice exposure , nice picture.
Are you ok?
Good to see you back again..take care.
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Malules Fernandez
{K:54810} 7/20/2009
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Love this one, Nick!
hugs,
Malules
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Fabio Keiner
{K:81109} 7/20/2009
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very good mood
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