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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/28/2007
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The emotional part is indispensable indeed, Ace. But still the mental part is the fundament when it comes to those basics that are indispensable too.
As about simply being what we are, I guess that we simply can't be any different no matter what we might find ;-)
All the best,
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/28/2007
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Thank you very much for the answer, Ace! Yes, I am strongly attracted by such dark silhouettes in front of a distinct light too. They seem to enhance the important lines just like putting a sculpture under the best possible light.
Going now to your image!
Best wishes,
Nick
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Ace Star
{K:21040} 2/28/2007
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another thing i wanna mention Nick! for artist their art is sensitive to them they feel absorb and get emotional with it and i like you becuase of your openess and get into detial of your work .... be yourself and you'l find more of you this way :)
all the best :)
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Ace Star
{K:21040} 2/28/2007
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i mostly capture sunset and sunrise ... if for example i capture this scene with beautiful silhouette and background magical sunset light what a combo (i see this that way) its like i love to capture these kinda shots i capture few
http://www.usefilm.com/Image.asp?ID=1060289 (hope you like this one)
thanks :)
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/28/2007
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I am glad that you find it special, Ace, but also a bit curious to know why you find it special. Could you please say?
Keep well,
Nick
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Ace Star
{K:21040} 2/27/2007
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special in so many ways! very unique in style :)
grt job my friend
good luck
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/25/2007
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Jan, thank you very much for your thoughts on this discussion, that I think is a fruitable one about photography. And of course feel free to criticize my "methods" - there is nothing bad about that, as it is *methods and ideas* that are criticized, and not the persons that use them. I don't claim any "absolute correctness" exposing my thoughts, so I am always ready for positive *and* negative feedback.
So, I will answer your comment about the cake with a question: Is thinking a hindrance against having fun? I would rather say the opposite: Thinking is supporting fun very strongly. Take for example the photo "... and deparure." I *thought* how special it would look if captured in those steely blue hues. Next thought was of course "and how to do that?". And a bit of thinking lead to underexposure, which worked. The fun was to imagine the scene under this special light (which you name "doing it by heart" if I am not mistaken) and to translate then the vision into a photo by thinking about the settings, etc. It is a very fascinating kind of game which includes that kind of "suspence" when one waits to see what the photo looks like.
The already made photos will never be "complete". There is always something to talk about. So, the additional knowledge that I gain through your opinions is a "teacher" that "speaks" to me when I take the next photos. It is like a treasure of concentrated experience and skill that is available to me - a big book of photography if you like.
As about producing great works, I am very far from it of course, but I do want to produce great works some day. This is not arrogance but rather... demanding the impossible for achieving the possible. As I am already "half-professional" and do not only shoot just for the uploads here, it is very natural to be interested for further evolution. After all I smashed my job as an IT specialist in a big company just for moving into photography.
The feeling of "following the own heart" is generated by the same apparatus that we use for conscious thinking - the brain. Though we "feel" different, this is only a fata morgana created by the brain, and it is good this way for several reasons. But at the end it should be clear that any doubt about the own work includes the possibility for getting better and also an attitude that avoids exaggerated persuasion about the own skills. Relaxing and thinking are not mutually exclusive.
Waiting for your thoughts.
Have a nice Sunday,
Nick
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Jan Hoffman
{K:39467} 2/24/2007
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Nick - You should listen to Srna. You can have your cake and eat it too! I am a computer engineer by trade so I often "think too much"; but.... when shooting I don't over think the pictures. I will never produce great works but I have a heck of good time taking and presenting photos. The heart rules for me and it probably goes against my nature. Now, in my humble opinion, I think you got this picture right the first time. But then your started to think-- maybe that one part should not be there. Do them both if you like but you nailed it the first time as far as I am concerned. We all have our different styles so I am not criticizing over-thinking. But relax a bit and have fun (which you probably do anyways!). :)
--Best to you, Jan
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/24/2007
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It doesn't have to be continuous or limited to some particular persons, so it will be continued in the one or the other form when time is right.
Have anice weekend,
Nick
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Srna Stankovic
{K:172232} 2/24/2007
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I am not in the mood for discussion Nick ...
all the best to you !!!
Srna
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/24/2007
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You know, dear Srna, reading between the lines is not international. It depends on our society, culture, the way we grew up, where we went to school, and many similar things. This way it just has to be that many times we tend to read different things between the lines. Thanks heavens thus for having such a thing called language! :-)
But seriously, self criticism is a very healthy thing to do, and thus all the questioning about the own work. And it has also the benefit of bringing me a bit closer to way that each of you out there "sees the world".
So let the discussion continue...
Nick
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Srna Stankovic
{K:172232} 2/24/2007
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Wow Nick, I have not came from the Mars !!! ;)
You are totaly right and I know all of this you are writing ... listen to your heart was jus symbolic way to say the same you are thinking about :)
We can sometimes read between the lines :)
best wishes to you too :)
Srna
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/24/2007
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Grazie molto molto, Simone!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/24/2007
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Hmm, there is no "too much" thinking. All special and distinct works in the history of this planet were not made by simply "enjoying" some kind of decoupling from thinking, but quite the contrary happened. Artistic work has never been the result of ju7st "enjoying". This is the impression that somebody might have without knowing what lead to creation of such great works. Having said that, the definition of "happiness" gets quite hard if not empty at all.
As an additional hint, be aware of the fact that even the part of us that we know as "feelings" is a result of brain activity. The heart is only a pump that feeds our main part - the brain - with fuel. It is mind that makes us to what we are. So, questioning the own impression might be put as a search for the reasons - for the why's that are able to make us to what we are.
One might choose to stay at the stage of unawareness of the own self. But this is too shallow and doesn't take us anywhere. It is the steady thinking that can be taken as *the* fact that forms and creates, rejects and destroys. On the ever lasting journey of arts to who knows where, it has been the struggle for awareness that has presented us the most distinct work - and also the most human.
I am not happy or sad just for the fun of it. In the times of recognition of that fact that we "feel" with the brain, it would be very poor to think that merely "enjoying" is something at all.
Best wishes,
Nick
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Simone Tagliaferri
{K:28180} 2/24/2007
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Splendida composizione di rami. Complimenti.
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Srna Stankovic
{K:172232} 2/24/2007
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You think to much my dear Nick :) and that is good offcourse, but why do not sometime listen what your heart says to you ?! :)
Enjoy in photography !!! This is the world by its own and you can be very happy there !!! :)
Regards, Srna
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/24/2007
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Thanks a lot for your nice comment, Srna!
I still think about the role of the tree at the right according to Jan's comment. Leaving it off image would result in a much more "schema-like" image but I don't know if this would be stronger this way. Oh well, photographers and their steady search for *the* photo. :-)
Best wishes,
Nick
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Srna Stankovic
{K:172232} 2/24/2007
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Beautiful capture dear Nick, you have done your job very well !!! :) My compliments, Srna
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/24/2007
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Thanks a lot for the nice and informative comment, Jan. I did have the feeling that it does play a role on this shot but I couldn't say exactlyx what this role is. So I am greatful for leading my thoughts in the direction of perspective and depth. Now that you tell me I do see that without the tree at the right the photo would be "flat", which of course changes the felt depth. Interesting to see how a single detail changes the photo.
Best wishes and thanks again,
Nick
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Jan Hoffman
{K:39467} 2/24/2007
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I think it does add perspective and more depth. I am very partial to tree silhouette shots; well done, Nick.
--Jan
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