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Jan Hoffman
{K:39467} 6/8/2007
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Roberto -- Thanks so much for your kind words.
--Best regards, Jan
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R T
{K:727} 6/4/2007
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great shot, congratulations my friend
Roberto T.
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Jan Hoffman
{K:39467} 6/3/2007
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Nacho -- Thanks so much for your comments.
--Best to you, Jan
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Jan Hoffman
{K:39467} 6/3/2007
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Thanks so much for your comments, Meg. The grain is mostly due to the high ISO value as the telephoto at 300 mm does not have a very wide aperture and the lighting in the area around the feeder was shady. I first tried the G7 and the results were not good. I either backed off on the G7 telephoto and got high levels of pixelation or increased the telephoto into the digital range and got soft focus and/or blur. Then came the Rebel. I think I can improve these by moving closer and letting the birds get used to me.
--Best regards, Jan
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Jose Ignacio (Nacho) Garcia Barcia
{K:96391} 6/3/2007
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great capture. superb. 7+++++++
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Meg Metcalfe
{K:6114} 6/3/2007
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Your off to a good start Jan but the time of day isn't helping you much, I feel the bright light and deep shadows are confusing the camera. There is also as you know quite a lot of graininess in the image.
I notice you are using your Rebel for these shots and I just wonder if your G7 might cope with this situation better. What you lost in zoom capacity would be made up for in pixel count, it would then be possible to do a savage crop to get the image you want..... Just thinking out loud... :))))
Meg.
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Jan Hoffman
{K:39467} 6/2/2007
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Make fun; go ahead. But just because Canon makes an affordable low-end line of lenses does not mean that you are any better than us. Even a cave man knows that! However we do have to be careful at 300 mm !%$#@!&*^%$#@
--Jan
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Robin W
{K:16308} 6/2/2007
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No matter how misguided YOU THINK we are...you like us, you really really like us!
:) Robin
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 6/2/2007
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LoL! Canon people. HEHEHEEheheheee.
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Jan Hoffman
{K:39467} 5/31/2007
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Robin - Thanks for the comments and I am glad (or sorry) to hear that your lens, like mine, is soft at the 300 mm point. You only get what you pay for and I did not pay much for this lens. The next leap upward was major big bucks above this one.
--Best to you, Jan
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Jan Hoffman
{K:39467} 5/31/2007
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Thanks for the feedback, Doyle. I appreciate the help. I agree-- it is what it is and like whack-a-mole, whatever adjustment I do in one place seems to pop out in another. I will re-shoot. The feeder is on a guy wire and I am thinking I am going to move it a foot or so each day, closer and closer to the house. I can shoot from the back porch.
Quite a temptation to turn the 300 mm over towards the neighbor's yard, but heck, I already have his dryer and beer bottles photographed so I might as well just stick with the birds.
Thanks again and regards, Jan
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 5/31/2007
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Hey Jan! It is what it is and what it is is a nice shot. It's not the greatest (as you know) but it's a great start and I think you're not likely to make it any better . . . your sharpening has caused a tad bit of an issue where the leg connects to the body I think . . . very slight and almost not noticeable.
Best bet is to go back and reshoot. Perhaps more patience is required. With Gumby (That hummingbird I stalked) I was lucky. It seems the more they see you - not moving and just being there . . . particularly day to day and Gumby was there each day when I arrived home from work . . . the more they get used to you. Uhhhh . . . to a degree anyway.
You could also strategically move the feeder. That's how I got my first one that was exactly . . . well . . . similar to yours! Hung it near a door. Comfy chair inside the door and the door left cracked. Might be able to drop off that 300mm range better that way too. Anyway . . . I'm loving it Jan! Can't wait to see how you nab the next nifty number! :)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Robin W
{K:16308} 5/31/2007
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Good for you Jan, venturing into the "unknown" world of nature photography...you are braver, and much more patient than I. :) Great to watch the process and the helpful suggestions from everyone...uf at it's best! Keep at it, I think you're off to a good start.
I have the same lens, great for MLB games as long as I don't shoot at 300mm...as you said, too soft.
Other than the games, it doesn't get much use...I'm OK with that, no patience for stalking creatures!
Take care...Robin
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Jan Hoffman
{K:39467} 5/31/2007
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Michele -- Thanks for your comments!
--Regards, Jan
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Michele Carlsen
{K:146013} 5/31/2007
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Yes Jan I think this is a slight improvement--- I stick with slight because I do think this bird is in an ackward position to photograph- the 'no neck ' part is just a strange perspective IMHO only.... BUT I did read that Doyle said his was 'exactly the same at the start' so no giving up..... just keep on shooting - You're a very , very good photographer who has a new challenge :))
Best Wishes,
Michele~
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Jan Hoffman
{K:39467} 5/30/2007
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Robin -- I think you are right-on in your comments and I appreciate the advice. When I set up and waited closer to the feeders the birds would not come to the feeders. There is some magic line they draw in their radar-like brains and I was crossing it. I don't want to build a bird blind in my back yard but one option is to camp out longer and see if they will get used to the idea of my being closer.
Another option is pricey, and that is to go to a higher focal length lens. That is not going to happen for a while.
Thanks again for the honest feedback.
--Best to you, Jan
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Robin Sanderse
{K:2545} 5/30/2007
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Hi Jan,
I saw the original..in both shots, I think they're too far away from your Canon..
The sharpening is making it a little unreal unfortunetly.
My advice: next time: try to get a little closer too this beautifull bird..if you can ;-)
I think the 800 iso also is making it a little grainy too.
crtz,
Robin
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