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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 5/23/2008
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Thanks a bunch for this comment, Ian!
You misconstructed the meaning of it? I think not. They misconstructed that! If they still want to get their "innocent sacrified" they can go on.
Perhaps there is still a big demand for that institutional malice, considering the always necessary slaughtering of "lamb of god" (and the like) for "salvaging" us. A cheap excuse for slaughtering and for the mediocre need for crocodile tears for the one that had to be sacrified. What a ridiculous concept!
I just s**t on that crap. Including holy communions, confirmations, wonders, gods and demons. I can pulverize them all in less than a second. What remains after that is your interpretation, about that song with your neighbors. That's the valuable idea! Perhaps you go for it? (And if you need a guitarist, lemme know!! ;-))
BTW, you are really OK if you are still disappointed about that. I am more "reactive". With 14 I denied any further communion, and the greek orthodox priests wanted to send me to the anathema for that. Not to speak about the fears of my parents. They thought I was the antichrist. And I thought, wow! Now I am a VIP? ;-) Anyway, I told them, I couldn't care less. I don't need the blessing of anybody in heavens or in hell. I have my brain!
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 5/22/2008
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A bunch of thanks for that, Visar!
People are not even simply strange. They are ultra-strange for insisting to live in dread in front of some hand that appears in front of them, and demands to be kissed. Authority makes a good impression, Visar! No matter what kind stupidity is told, it is "wonderful" and "respectable" as long as it is presented in the diguise of "authority". And so we have some analphabet guys, like the holies and the apostels and the pope himself, who can't even count from one up to two, to tell us about the "truth", ey?
Well, you hit the nail on its head with your comment! Those who bow theair heads in front of that do not have any right to complain for being treated like a herd! ;-) Democracy is not hillbilly. >:-D
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 5/22/2008
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Thanks a lot for the detailed and inspiring comments, Gustavo!
I really have to get it more Giger-like, and so I am going to visit Milan once again somewhen. This is what religion is about. Fear, misery, slavery! And I can only scream asong with Judas Priest:
We've taken too much for granted
and all the time it had grown.
From techno-seeds we once planted
evolved a mind of its own!
(Metal Gods)
Cheers!
Nick
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Ian McIntosh
{K:42997} 5/22/2008
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My first thoughts were if Giger too. This is a great comp!
Its institutional malice is softened here.
I first heard the word comunion when I was 21, through reading literary critiques of t.s. eliot and thomas Pynchon. Completely mis constructing the proces I interpretted it as communion with our neighbours, being together and expressing it in song. a quaint idea I still value but seldom express, a disapointment, an emptiness I also find in the institutional communion itself.
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absynthius .
{K:20748} 5/19/2008
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the will and skill of whoever partook in the building of the cathedral is admirable, as well as the outcome- where one hardly gets a rest of the eye but rather wandering throughout on every different detail.
like the other image i commented, this one, even more, shows the perfect architectural disguise of a godly missionaries on earth spreading the seed unquestionably amongst the people, using this grandiosity, this authority to make people feel hopless and small and humble in front of it- kiss the hand of the pope, be saved and embrace some ultimate solutions for a life designed beforehand!!
people are strange,
cheers Nick,
v.
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Gustavo Scheverin
{K:164501} 5/18/2008
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Es cierto que tiene un toque a H. R. Giger y recuerda a "Alien, el octavo pasajero"...:-) aunque claro, tendrías que hacerla mucho más oscura y con más contrastes....;-)
Un abrazo!
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Gustavo Scheverin
{K:164501} 5/18/2008
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Me encanta, de tus mejores trabajo, casi abstracta, 7/7.
Un abrazo y felicitaciones!
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 5/18/2008
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Of course I admire their work, Dave! And above all their spirit. There have been generations of sculptors, architects, glas artists, painters, whatever, who knew exactly that they are not going to see the cathedral finished in their living time. Its construction took more than 4 centuries. And the work was hardest than whatever we can imagine nowadays. One must carry a great portion of idealism and enthusiasm in order to continue working under such conditions, even if the endth result will remain outside the own experience. It is that kind of perhaps "being possessed" and to try to do the very best one is able to do but not for being "rewarded". This is also what I am complaining about when I see "explanations" here about "having little time" to deal with something in the most exhaustive, painstaking, dedicated way.
At the same time I do have my disliking of all that mystifying/horrifying symbolism that emerged from the beliefs about god and devil. I wonder why such works are considered "beautiful" while non-religious works that look exactly the same are called "terrible". Giger's work is exactly the same style, but he didn't refer to biblical things. And so his work is considered to be "fearful". So, to me it seems that you just put the label "god and heavens" onto something and it turns automatically "beautiful". ("Beautiful" meant merely for its looks.) Which is like swithing off the own mind and adopting the usual suggestive thinking of a well established institution. Any angel looks like an alien and still we find it "beautiful". But alien itself is "terrible". And this is such a contradiction to me. It's like having different measures for the same kind of work according to the side which the artist belongs to.
OK, it's Sunday, and it's good for brainstorming! Sorry if I get boring.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 5/17/2008
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And I also hope impressive in the bad sense, Vandi. I wanted to get it as "dead" as any religion is, and as any religiusoly driven art can be.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 5/17/2008
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Hi Mohamed and thanks a lot for the nice comment and the careful look! Do you mean the "lines" as marked-up on the attachment? The two regions are what I believe to see as blurry and cyan-colored. I don't know what this might be.
It looks much like a not uniformly cleaned up lens, but it is quite unlikely that the dirt would sit on two almost parallel horizontal areas of the lens. Or perhaps the film had two bends/folding "lines" there because of my incorrect handling? Anybody, and ideas?
Thanks a bunch for noticing, Mohamed!
Cheers!
Nick
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Dave Stacey
{K:150877} 5/17/2008
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Great details of the architecture here, Nick! Yes, a lot of these churches are really over the top in symbolism and decoration, but you have to admire the art and work involved in them.
Dave.
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Vandy Neculae
{K:7990} 5/16/2008
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Very complex and impressive structure here.
Great shot!
Vandi
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mohamed sobhy
{K:2186} 5/16/2008
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dear nick , another architectural wonder of italy ,.. I like the effect of DOF on the near and far ground , the towers look as if they were cloned by purpose ,..the thing that i am wondering about ,..am I or am I not seeing two blurry cyan lines that divide the shot in three parts ??? was it done on purpose or something in the lens??
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