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Photographer Saad Salem  Saad Salem {Karma:89003}
Project #66 Innocence Camera Model Canon EOS 400 D
Categories At Work
People
Street
Film Format Digital JPEG Norm
Portfolio My Travels
Lens 18-55mm
Uploaded 10/6/2008 Film / Memory Type CF
    ISO / Film Speed 100
Views 388 Shutter 1/60
Favorites Aperture f/5.6
Critiques 29 Rating
6.50
/ 6 Ratings
Location City -  Istanbul
State - 
Country - Turkey   Turkey
About I have to give this poor lady 1 LYT to shot her in this position,I think she wasn't satisfied with that,
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Saad Salem Saad Salem   {K:89003} 10/14/2008
thank you very much,it is my pleasure to visit,and leave your signature on one of my photos,my deepest respect,and regards,
Saad.

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esra şenocak esra şenocak   {K:963} 10/14/2008
dear saad
very nice shot..

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Nick Karagiaouroglou Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:127263} 10/12/2008
Exactly, Saad! The exaggerated emphasis on mere looks was also what I meant. In the meanwhile they go correct even some small wrinkle for getting the uniform look. A world of copies is that.

Cheers!

Nick

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Saad Salem Saad Salem   {K:89003} 10/11/2008
in short my dear Nick,having an eyeglass for myopia,and not applying mascara,stitch an injured face,and not doing face plastic surgery to correct the lips,plaster bone fractures, those are the kind of maintenance I meant,
perfectness is a far reach goal for some humans that can not be acheveid ,unless in some specefic and very specialized aspects of life,have a nice night,
Saad.

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Nick Karagiaouroglou Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:127263} 10/11/2008
Sigh, many times I have the same impression considering your last sentence, Saad! Still I have to keep up hoping for not getting completely insane! ;-)

About "maintaining our hardware in a good condition in order for the software to work properly.", well undoubtfully so, but this doesn't mean that kind of perfection of a Barbie and Ken. Let's not forget that the most admirable spirits in history of mankind were really not physically perfect. Their brain was in great condition and so the myopic eyes didn't disturb at all.

Kurt Goedel had thick glasses on, was almost a skeleton of underweight, etc, etc. Exactly the opposite of some kind of "good hardware". Yet he gave us some of the most striking results of the "software". The same holds also for almost all the other great spirits of mankind too. So, as Paul Erdös once said about his consume of coffee (and other amphetamines): "Mathematicians are machines that convert cups of coffee to theorems". ;-)

Cheers!

Nick

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Saad Salem Saad Salem   {K:89003} 10/10/2008
thank you ,regards,
Saad.

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M. Bi M. Bi   {K:3646} 10/10/2008
Beautiful shot!
Sad...
Mauri

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Saad Salem Saad Salem   {K:89003} 10/10/2008
I agree with you to the last breath of mine on 99% of what you have said,the remaining 1% is an addition and not an apposition,and it is in two parts,the first is that we have to maintain our hardware in a good condition in order for the software to works properly,like for instance correcting myopia to perceive the shapes in its normal shapes,the second part of the 1% is a reply to your words (I still hope that this is only a temporary fashion coming from that kind of attitudes of hollywoodian "sunny guys" (= empty minds) I think this is a permanent state that we have to live with till the the last day,cause the desires beats the mind in the mass on normal populations,
my deepest regards,
Saad.

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Nick Karagiaouroglou Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:127263} 10/10/2008
Exactly, Saad! Right spot on! The eyes, and the hands, and the hair, etc, etc, are only our "hardware". They are not ourselves. Ourselves, those conscious somethings aware of the own self and the world, are not to be mistaken for that junk, as you say.

Considering vision, many too many still think that it is the eyes that see. But this is a mistake. The eyes are only biological cameras that feed the brain with pictures. But they do not *see*, they don't *perveive* the contents. They simply detect some range of electromagnetical waves, and pass the data to the brain for "processing" by mind. (Even the brain is hardware.) It is the mind (software) that sees! It connects the data, relates them to already known things, generates a "scene", a mapping of physical world onto conscious thinking.

As a small example, our eyes and optical nerves are only capable of detecting and transfering about 16 to 18 pictures per second to the brain. So, a moving scene is "sampled" by our eyes once every 0.06 seconds approximately. It is not "sampled" continuously at all! Still the mind is able to "intrapolate" all the not sampled steps inbetween, generating the perception of continuous motion in our conscious thinking, which the eyes are simply not able to grasp.

Your statement about "many fair sighted that are blind" goes for me in exactly the right direction. You see, we focus more and more on that junk, caring only about physical health, but we neglect more and more our mental power. While for example we can see a huge load of medical advices for jogging and sports and brushing out teeth, we see almost nothing about getting some book, reading, perfecting our minds. It is unfortunately rather the new car and the nice looking haircut instead of a sharply and deeply thinking mind that became "targets" for everybody on this world. It is really seldom to have some philosophical discussion that deserves the name. But I still hope that this is only a temporary fashion coming from that kind of attitudes of hollywoodian "sunny guys" (= empty minds).

Cheers! And thank you a bunch for the really great input!

Nick

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Saad Salem Saad Salem   {K:89003} 10/9/2008
myopic or not,they are a piece of junk made from flesh and some water,it is the brain that counts my dear,how many fair sighted you have seen and they are blind at the same time? it is the mind my dear,and in your case it is very fair sighted,wishes,
Saad.

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Saad Salem Saad Salem   {K:89003} 10/9/2008
thank you Ania,best wishes,
Saad.

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Nick Karagiaouroglou Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:127263} 10/9/2008
I am glad if I contribute something reasonable, Saad!

BTW, my eyes are myopic, so they can't be that good! ;-)

Cheers!

Nick

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Ania Blazejewska Ania Blazejewska   {K:23981} 10/9/2008
great street capture Saad
congrats and regards
ania

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Saad Salem Saad Salem   {K:89003} 10/8/2008
this is to be expected from your eyes dear Nick,you are always a fair,logical,and a good criticizer of the shots,not mine that what I mean,but in general,I always read your critiques whenever I found them,have a nice day,
Saad.

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Nick Karagiaouroglou Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:127263} 10/8/2008
I already had a very natural impression from this one, Saad! I interpreted your about as if you had given her the coin and directed her, but the look and feel of the image told me different. So, thank you very much for the info! I am glad for having the right impression of your image, even after my misunderstang of the about - my eyes worked well! ;-)

Cheers!

Nick

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Saad Salem Saad Salem   {K:89003} 10/7/2008
thank you my dear friend,you are my good angel,you always corrects to me my mistakes that I do because of lack of knowledge about Turkey,
yes it was shot at Beyoglu,and she sells what Arif says,I will not correct the information I gave,in order your words will be the correct one,my very best regards,
Saad.

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Saad Salem Saad Salem   {K:89003} 10/7/2008
thank you dear Nick,the shot is not a directed one at all,I just handled her my coin ,and get to a three meters from her ,and took my tow shots,my regards,
Saad.

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Saad Salem Saad Salem   {K:89003} 10/7/2008
no dear Harry,this is an old info,you will get a Pepsi can with one and half Turkish Lear,so it is a little,it is moving towards Europe economy,my regards,
Saad.

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Arif Ertan Ersoy (aersoy) Arif Ertan Ersoy (aersoy)   {K:27380} 10/7/2008
hello saad , nice shot:)
i think it is shot in the beyoglu , taxim..
she is selling lavanders... lavanders is used in the wardrobes for good scent.,
my best,
arif

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Nick Karagiaouroglou Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:127263} 10/7/2008
The portrait doesn't seem to be at all "directed", Saad. And I think that this very natural look makes it also authentic, real. The good focus kept all nice details, especially on her face. Perhaps a bit more exposure could enhance that further, but I am not sure about that. The color palette of many blue hues between the other colors is another thing that I find nice here.

Cheers!

Nick

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Wolf Zorrito Wolf Zorrito   {K:78768} 10/7/2008
Then she is crazt because one dollar is quite a lot in Turkey ... strange woman ;-)

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Saad Salem Saad Salem   {K:89003} 10/6/2008
thank you dear for the advice,she was selling a bird food at an area where there is no birds at all,at the same time I have only what is equal to one dollar only ,she really gave me one pack,and I thanked her and return it back to the basket,my very best regards,
Saad.

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Saad Salem Saad Salem   {K:89003} 10/6/2008
no my dear Harry,I have noticed that she was not satisfied with what equal to one dollar,my regards,
Saad.

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Saad Salem Saad Salem   {K:89003} 10/6/2008
thank you my dear,my regards,
Saad.

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Paul de Beukelaar Paul de Beukelaar   {K:26449} 10/6/2008
Good character capture Saad,
Difficult to read her face here, but indeed she does not look very happy with the "transaction". I would only suggest simply buy one or two of her products and then gently ask to make a picture of her. Paying for making a shot only is not the business she is used to. Buying her products and making your picture secondary creates more trust and finally satisfaction for both.
Oh..I forgot them nearly ... also satisfaction for the birds :-)
all the best,
Paul

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Wolf Zorrito Wolf Zorrito   {K:78768} 10/6/2008
I think she is just in doubt about what that stranger is doing ;-) She seems satisfied, maybe she learned she can double the price hahahaha

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Jen van Wijn Jen van Wijn   {K:24075} 10/6/2008
I am so sorry to hear this my dear friend:(
Of course every penny counts, I know this, not
very fortunate myself...
Hopefully you will get better soon, in any way!!
Lots of warm hugs and my friendship, Jen

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Saad Salem Saad Salem   {K:89003} 10/6/2008
it is one dollar my friend,and it is the whole of what I have at the moment,thank you for your kindness,my regards,
Saad.

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Jen van Wijn Jen van Wijn   {K:24075} 10/6/2008
Not sure what 1 LYT is, but maybe she needed more to get
her own food:)? You did capture here great though, lots
emotion and details here, great shot dear Saad!
Hugs Jen

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