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Walt McNeil
{K:2146} 1/15/2005
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Thanks. I'll check into it.
Walt
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Walt McNeil
{K:2146} 1/15/2005
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I appreciate your comments, Tom. This is an old shot that still endures; if I went back there today, it would probably be still there afterall these years.
Walt
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Tom Ziegler
{K:585} 1/15/2005
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Good shot!
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audra erin
{K:3837} 1/15/2005
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Yes I was thinking 6..then Elements popped into my head...try BizRate...it's a good place to start..punch in what your looking for and see what happens.
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Walt McNeil
{K:2146} 1/14/2005
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Well, I actually have Photoshop Elements, bought several years ago; but it doesn't havethe capability of interepting RAW.
I was thinking that you meant a copy of an older Photoshop software, such as Photoshop 4 or 5. I don't know if these are still available.
Being as such as I have an older version of Photoshop Elements, I don't know if I want to spend $100 for a newer version.
I also don't know if there is an upgrade to this software.
Walt
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audra erin
{K:3837} 1/14/2005
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Thanks..try BizRate.com..put photoshop in the search...for you I recommend Photoshop Elements...it's only like $100..sometimes less depending where you buy. Elements is like a "makeshift Photoshop" without alot of bellS and whistels..I have both myself and work with them equally as often. It's perfect..you don't have to spend $300 and you still get to experience Photoshop.
Check out Adobe.com and read up a bit..have fun!
audra
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Walt McNeil
{K:2146} 1/14/2005
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I'admire your images,and your interesting line of thought. I have never considered buying an older version of Photoshop, but what you say makes a lot of sense, in the light of digital photography.
If you would happen to have a link to the site that you suggest, I would amire in contacting them to see what is available.
I did buy Nikon Capture 4, and also have PhotoImpact 7; but I would be interested in obtaining a better software to work with.
Thanks for all your remarks, and for writing.
walt
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Walt McNeil
{K:2146} 1/14/2005
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Thanks for your comments, Pat. I agree with you and add that if two people were standing in the same spot, with the same camera and film, shooting at the same time, in the same conditions, it's very likely that the images will be different.
It's in the eyes of the photographer, what and how he/she chooses to portray it; it one's own creative vision.
Right now, I enjoy being a photographer,instead of a computer operator; so whatever comes out, is basically what I show, with minor changes to sharpening and size.
Being color(shade) blind, my images may be off from what is the true color or shade of light. But then that is what makes photography so interesting; the individualism and vision of one's interpertation of what is seen and captured through the lens of a camera.
I like your images very much but if I wee in your place, i might look for a different view or time of day, composition or whatever.
Again, thanks for your and all the others comments and remarks on this image, and the others past and future.
Walt
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Walt McNeil
{K:2146} 1/14/2005
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Thanks for your remarks.
walt
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audra erin
{K:3837} 1/14/2005
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Hey Walt..just a note...you can find earlier versions of photoshop at a reasonable price on their site...also Photoshop Is Very easy to learn and opens up a whole new world! Sure it takes some time to get really really good at it but you'll find your self tinkering and learning at the same time. Theres just SO MUCH one can do in Photoshop...it's worth it really it is. You have been shooting 20 years..you have a great eye for art IMHO. Maybe just consider it..?
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Patrick Ziegler
{K:21797} 1/14/2005
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Walt:
Congrats on making the front page! I like this shot.
I do not understand this hang up on color. First, who is to say my peception of blue and you perception is the same? Impossible to know. Second, If you where to take this shot every hour from sunrise to sunset you have 12, or so, differnt shots with differnet color balance. some would be more gradual than others. Color is not a consistant thing even in life. It is dependant on the available light which is constantly changing. I like this shot, I think the color is maybe a representaion of that moment when you snapped the shot. With all that said, I like yours better.
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Juliette
{K:585} 1/14/2005
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i like the purple clouds
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Serge Moscow
{K:-2917} 1/10/2005
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Walt, I understand you and fully agree with yours position. For some period of time I've occupied the same one. In future you'll ready to learn these questions, no problems.
Corrections in WB is not obligatory and not the same in any case. In winter typically we need negative (more warm) correction of colour temperature, in summer it'd be correction in blue. I'd prefer do not correct WB and quite often I do not, because modern digital cameras work perfect in most cases.
If you have not PS, you can use PS elements or firm software from yours camera. The most important point here is to have a camera with possibility to write in RAW mode. Then, in Nikon Capture programm you will be able to change all parameters of image. And you'll not need in PS.
But most of photographers work with this program, of course...
Regards,
Serge
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Walt McNeil
{K:2146} 1/10/2005
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Thanks for your comments, which I regard as an honor from such an accomplished and talented photographer.
I shall be adding my comments to your images in the near future, but now it is 3:00 in th emorning and i am quite fatigued and have to go to bed for an early arising.
Walt
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 1/10/2005
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Hi Walt, very powerful shot (no pun intended) The dramatic clouds over this electrical unit create a very strong atmosphere, industrial looking and even somewhat frightening. Well captured, althoug I think a bit more space around the unit might balance the composition a bit more.
Cheers,
Hugo
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Walt McNeil
{K:2146} 1/10/2005
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Thank you for your reply. While partially understanding your message, I can not, at this time be able to do as you say.
First, I do not have Photo Shop, nor plan to buy this program. I feel that I am mostly just a hobby photographer; Photo Shop is very expensive and requires a great deal of knowledge and practice, and also of patience, none of which are my virtues.
Secondly, this image was shot in film and then scanned for the internet use. Thus while I understand andagree with your version, it requires more knowledge, work, and time that I am prepared to give.
I do have a digital camera and will be using it more frequently as I grow experienced; but I also still prefer to shoot in slide film.
Thus it's mostly in the computer that the colors are adjusted, while I prefer to leave the clor balance to what the film actually provides.
Thanks again for your response. I shall be posting on an infrequent basis now due to a change in daily activities, but I look forward to hearing how these images could be finely tuned, to provide a more accurate representation.
Walt
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Serge Moscow
{K:-2917} 1/10/2005
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Walt, for long period of time I did not understand the importance of White Balance. And now I see here, at Usefilm a lot of shots, which need correction in WB. I use for this purpose special plug-in from
http://www.theimagingfactory.com/
Of course it's better to shot in RAW mode and then correct WB in Camera Raw.
Practically all cameras add its own unique hue to colours of original picture, so it's quite important step of correction.
Another possible variant - use photo filter in PhotoShop (Image-Adjustment-PhotoFilter). For example, warm filter 81B correct bluish tone, cool filter 80 correct yellow, etc.
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Second important point for correction - colours hue and saturation (Image-Adjustments-Hue/Saturation). This better to do in Lab mode.
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Firstly I analize presence of separate colours. At yours shot too much magenta, for e.g. Typically we have problems with cyan, magenta and yellow. So I try to correct each this colour separately aiming to balance colours spectrum. Then I switch to "Master" in Hue/Saturation and correct shot as a whole, typically adding saturation because I like bright saturated colours.
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Quite often is's necessary to decrease colour noise. In PhotoShop this perform in Lab mode. Firstly your choose A colour channel and make Filter-Blur-Gaussian Blur with parameter 4-8. Then repeat this with B colour channel.
Much more comfortable to use special plug-ins from ImagingFactory or GrainSurgery or NeatImage.
Regards,
Serge
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Walt McNeil
{K:2146} 1/9/2005
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Thanks for your comments. I believe that your variant might be a little closer to the actual color. If you want to reply and describe how you achieved it, i would appreciate it.
Walt
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Serge Moscow
{K:-2917} 1/9/2005
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Walt, I agree with yours words conserning background. Here my variant.
Regards,
Serge
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Walt McNeil
{K:2146} 1/8/2005
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Thanks for your remarks. The background is just as important as the subject, I think. Put both together, and usually it adds up to a strong picture.
walt
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Khaled Mursi Hammoud
{K:54005} 1/7/2005
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Yes, the sky adds to the mood of power.
Wondeful tones and colors Walt.
Thanx for sharing, regards,
Khaled.
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Walt McNeil
{K:2146} 1/7/2005
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Thanks for your comments, Dave. I entered this in a contest once, long ago, and the guy said that he knew the place and the colors didn't look real.
Walt
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Dave Stacey
{K:150877} 1/7/2005
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Now that you mention it, I think you're right! What I noticed about your image, Walt, is the sky behind the transformer, giving the feeling of power and impending storm.
Dave.
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