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Photographer Dave Arnold  Dave Arnold {Karma:55680}
Project N/A Camera Model Canon 300D
Categories Nature
Film Format Digital JPEG High
Portfolio Nature
Lens Canon 75-300MM EF 1:4-5.6 IS
Uploaded 6/29/2006 Film / Memory Type Lexar  1GB
    ISO / Film Speed
Views 515 Shutter 1/1000
Favorites Aperture f/11
Critiques 26 Rating
6.10
/ 5 Ratings
Location City - 
State -  UTAH
Country - United States   United States
About Okay, this is a critiquer corner photo so feel free. I'm going through my photos from my four month western road tour. I came across a photo I shot on the San Juan River in Utah of these plants at the river edge. My intention at the time was to do silhouettes with the bright sunset background.

Anway, there was a whole line of them but I decided to crop to a very narrow view, leaving what you see in the center. It is untouched other than cropping.

Next, I wanted to use a Joggie frame, just two borders. But I don't necessarily want to exactly copy the Joggie. And in that it is a portrait format, bottom and top wouldn't work anyway.

So I did the big black border. I wanted a highlight line, known as the Van Staden II. So I put them in. Next, I decided it needed a larger black frame and got a bright idea to copy a slice of the center image and change its opacity, using it as part of the frame.

Almost there. I then embossed the two highlight lines, wanting to get the silver portion for each inside toward the photo. That didn't work so I ended up as seen.

Anyway, my question is two-fold. Is the cropping of the photo adequate from the standpoint of the gist of the subject and does this frame just plain snck?
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There are 26 Comments in 1 Pages
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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 10/12/2007
Thanks, John... I shot this while homeless and aimlessly wandering the southwest... LOL

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John Hatz John Hatz   {K:156973} 10/11/2007
Excellent job, not only just a common plant, you use with a very smart way the frame to make a very artistique work Dave. Yeap, it works perfectly to me, excellent!
Be well Dave!

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Larry Fosse Larry Fosse   {K:66493} 7/9/2006
The full frame is very nice Dave...I think I prefer it over the cropped/framed version IMHO

Thanks

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 7/8/2006
Thanks, Larry. You asked for the full frame of this shot, here it is.

Best wishes,
Dave

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Larry Fosse Larry Fosse   {K:66493} 7/6/2006
Hey Dave

Read your piece in the Donor Forum and decided to take a peek...Before I start I've failed to recognize over time that Joggie is famous for his borders...I'll have to pay more attention.I am generally not a frame fan..I've have used them in the past and never been quite satisfied. I do , on occasion use a subtle vingette. So.no..I don't like the border. I'd also be interested in seeing the entire frame as shot to get a better perspective on how it was cropped. My initial impression is the bottom is chopped off and perhaps a little of the top too.

So, your plan has worked you guided the commentor into the topic to get the feedback you wanted with a diversity of opinion.

Great idea...super feedback from everyone.

Take Care
Larry

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Doyle D. Chastain Doyle D. Chastain   {K:101119} 7/6/2006
Wow Dave
. . . quite an image and, if I might add, a stunning use for the CC! Great to see it used like this and I will HAVE to ask pointed questions in mine since you seem to have gotten some great critiques!
. . . First (all this is IMO, of course), I like the image. Muted, simple, yet beautiful. I would adjust brightness and contrast a tad though . . . to make it pop out a bit more--but only in the centered image . . . NOT the frame.
. . . In answer to the specifics--I like the crop. It seems to work well for this image and the almost Fantasia-like peek through a doorway or window makes it even more elegant. The rightside shadowy image does need (IMO) to be flipped so that the entrance into the composition by the stem comes from the lower right side . . . which would add more balance. I would also either lose or seriously reduce the highlight lines . . . 1 or 2 mm max (if I kept them at all). I would also likely reduce the width of the vertical black border.
....I do like what you've done with the frame . . . it's become a part of the image itself.
....the frame doesn't just plain snck. With some Doyle Modifications, it would even be great!! :)

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 6/30/2006
Thanks Joggie for the thoughtfulness. I am so glad you'd consider this an Arnold instaead of a van Staden but, in all honesty, it did start out that way, just heavily altered to avoid any lawsuits.

As I said to Kathy, I did consider turning that one slice on the right but then thought it should stay in the same lean angle.

I played around a bit more with the image, including toned the frame down and altered the colors. I have it posted in my porfolio. I think a more pleasing appearance, myself.

Best wishes,
Dave

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 6/30/2006
Thanks, Kathy. I ALMOST turned the right side piece horizontally but then thought, no, it should lean the same way as the others.

I about agree with you on the frame. I have played around a little and posted a variation with smaller side frames.

Dave

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Kathy Hillard Kathy Hillard   {K:25721} 6/30/2006
Hi Dave,
I tried to comment on this image last night, but for some reason the comment was blocked. You may get it later. Oh well, then you'll get two from me!
I haven't read all the other critiques, so don't know if I'm repeating, but I like the original image...the tones and the subject matter. As far as the frame goes, I think that if you leave it as is the outside right one should be flipped so that they mirror each other. That being said I think that this would be a stronger image if you ended the framing after the wide black lines. I think this frame is a bit much for the simplicity of the image. There you go...that's just MHO :) Very creative work!
Kathy

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Joggie van Staden Joggie van Staden   {K:41700} 6/29/2006
Hi Dave - Love the creative juices flowing! My comments: I nwould rate this as a pure Arnold frame! I would never thought of this! I see it rather as a combo of three images split by two broad dividers. What I would change: I would increase the contrast in the centre image a bit with a slightly brighter background and then I would flip the righthand image horisontally so that it also leans towards the middle image. I would also reduce the brightness of the two light brown verticals and get rid of the white lines. My final verdict: A great image to start with, the narrow upright format is great and the combo adds a very appealing element of natural symmetry (echoes the central one). Great work here my friend.
Joggie

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Roberto Arcari Farinetti Roberto Arcari Farinetti   {K:209486} 6/29/2006
a fine shot..
best regards
roby

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Toshi  Toshi    {K:11924} 6/29/2006
The photo itself is aesthetically pleasing - love the subtle warm colors against the darker silhouette.

As for the frame, I really like the outer two copies (with opacity adjustment) - it gives it a nice wallpaper feel to it. The overall black border blends well with it as well, although maybe a bit too thick for my taste.

The only part of the frame that distracts too much IMO is the darker orange - I feel it fights a little too much for attention. I think the orange in the photo itself is plenty enough as far as color is concerned.

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pan g. pan g.   {K:16899} 6/29/2006
Moody work... lovely...

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 6/29/2006
Thank you Cathy but please, whatever you do, don't blame me if you go frame crazy. I'm just the enabler here.

Best wishes,
Dave

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 6/29/2006
Phil

Get to the point. No pun intended. Geeze, my head is spinning. "Do it, don't do it, do it, don't do it". LOL

Actually, I really do think this needs some kind of frame and it should be black instead of my usual white frame. I just wanted to try something different. But a thin, 1/2 inch black all-around frame might look just fine too instead of all the fancy stuff.

Best wishes,
Dave

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 6/29/2006
Mark

Thanks for the feedback. I just keep going back and forth on this myself. That is why I am valuing the opinions I am receiving.

Best wishes,
Dave

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Dave Arnold Dave Arnold   {K:55680} 6/29/2006
Jim

Thanks for the extraordinary critique. And the fact that you are anti-frame in the first place makes it all the better. You could have been very closed minded about the frame attempt so I appreciate your candor.

Surprising the variations I am getting. Much like my "I like it, I hate it" argument with myself before deciding to post it and ask for feedback.

Best wishes,
Dave

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Jim Budrakey Jim Budrakey   {K:24393} 6/29/2006
First let me say that this is a very satisfying image. It has a wonderful soft quality about it that makes it easy to look at. Now, about the frame - I think it works very well. And this coming from someone who has been complaining a lot recently about how distracting most digital frames are. In this case I think you frame works very well. I think your idea of using the image itself to extend the frame to be quite creative and I think it works very well indeed. Cropping the top and bottom off so the frame is only at the sides is surprising but it works well too. All in all this has a slightly oriental feel for me and I like it a lot. Nice work indeed.

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Lori Stitt   {K:75282} 6/29/2006
Hi Dave,
Love the photograph, don't like the frame, but not sure what I would do.......so (naturally) I downloaded it, and will get to play around in PS tomorrow, don't have time at the moment. I don't mind this format, but something is needed, maybe even if the photo was off centered in the black. Not sure about this.

I'll check in with you tomorrow!
Lori :)

ps..yep, I called home!! :)

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Cathy Carroll Cathy Carroll   {K:28144} 6/29/2006
This is a very appealing image. The photograph itself is interesting and rich. I like the treatment of the frame, it makes it unique. I particularly love the story you have written. It guides the viewer to your end point and inspires us to look again at how we present our images. I would not have attempted anything like this. You have opened my mind with what I consider a successful experiment. Well done. Cathy

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Phillip  Minnis    Phillip  Minnis    {K:13131} 6/29/2006
Dave, I'm of two minds about this one!

To frame, or not to frame, that's the question!!!!! LOL

I faced a similar dilemma with my 'The Shadow on the Wall' image.

http://www.usefilm.com/Image.asp?ID=1136581

Originally, I uploaded this image with a frame, however, after looking at it many times, I felt it did not look right.

I note Mark's comment "Think the black bars you have is where I would crop" and "what's inside that window you caught is really stunning" is plausible, however, the way you have framed and presented it, IMHO, would look wonderful as a print in one of today's modern homes.

My conclusion? I say 'leaf (leave) it as is' (pardon the pun)! LOL Now, out you go and sell it!!! LOl

Cheers

Phil

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Mark Sherman   {K:15669} 6/29/2006
feels like looking out of a window, what's outside the "window" frame feels like wall paper. what's inside the window feels beautiful. feels like a water color background. Think the black bars you have is where I would crop, because what's inside that window you caught is really stunning.

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Alicia Popp   {K:87532} 6/29/2006
Delicadeza y elegancia en esta imagen...la combinación de colores es magnífica... felicitaciones!!!

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Gustavo Scheverin Gustavo Scheverin   {K:164501} 6/29/2006
Una hermosa , suave y poética imagen.
Felicitaciones!

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Pablo Dylan Pablo Dylan   {K:63918} 6/29/2006
Great composition!!

Pablo

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Mitra Nademi-Nassari Mitra Nademi-Nassari   {K:28234} 6/29/2006
Perfect! I love the colors!

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