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Photographer Michele Carlsen  Michele Carlsen {Karma:146013}
Project #28 Springtime Camera Model Nikon D40 Digital Camera
Categories Seascapes
Landscape
Nature
Film Format
Portfolio ocean+ tides
Birds + Lakes
Clay + Sand
Lens AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm
Uploaded 3/30/2007 Film / Memory Type Digital
    ISO / Film Speed
Views 711 Shutter
Favorites Aperture f/
Critiques 43 Rating
6.18
/ 6 Ratings
Location City -  Otis
State -  OREGON
Country - United States   United States
About Today was the first Sunny day of the week so I went out to the Salmon Bay Estuary as I hadn't been there for awhile-
Here it is .... What do You think ?

Camera Information with Tripod
1/20s
f/36
focal length 55mm ISO 200
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There are 43 Comments in 1 Pages
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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/31/2007
Thank YOU so much dear Shadi. I appreciate your time to view and to comment my dear :)

Best wishes,
Michele~

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Shadi Porooshani Shadi Porooshani   {K:11236} 3/31/2007
very nice view & very good your work
regards
shadi

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/31/2007
Hi Martin,
My settings were 1/15s @ f/36...on a tripod... and as Doyle does explain at that shutter speed a slight breeze, or me pushing the shutter button can cause the blur I have . He also said that shooting at f/36 I loose quality and contrast which I certainly did. I have another shot with the settings of 1/1000s@f/5.6 and it's a much better image.. I will add it.

I always appreciate your help Martin... but I don't understand as quickly as you might hope... and I know it gets frustrating.
Imagine how I feel:(

Take Care my friend,
Michele~

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Martin . Martin .   {K:24957} 3/31/2007
Mich,

At the risk of getting trashed again, I will tell you what I think, but I always tell the truth... ;)

You can shoot at f/36, but I don't think that you shot this at a shutter speed of 1/150 @ f/36, because an f/stop of that DOF would be much sharper?

Doyle explains it much better IMHO... ;)

Martin

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Srna Stankovic Srna Stankovic   {K:172232} 3/31/2007
Learning, learning, learning ... the pleasure of learning my dear :) !!!
Now I can go to sleep :) !!!
Love !!!
Srna

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Srna Stankovic Srna Stankovic   {K:172232} 3/31/2007
hm, go to sleep ... now i have to see what was all about :) !!!
comming .... :)

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/31/2007
Thank You Srna... You are right- but after I posted this image I learned some major things I'd done wrong... or ways to do it better I mean...sooo it effected my attitude. But I beleive in myself, and I do believe in YOU-
Go to Sleep :)
love,
Michele~

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Srna Stankovic Srna Stankovic   {K:172232} 3/31/2007
Michele, the most of us here are learning, but you are really good and you have to trust in yourself more, your work is good ... I do not write what do I not think !!!!
love
Srna

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/31/2007
Thank YOu my dear Srna for the kind and supportive comments that cheer me and make me feel sooooo good -- even if I could do better sometime, while I am learning how I really appreciate your enthusiasm sooooo much !!!
with love,
Michele~

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/31/2007
Thank YOU very much my freind Nacho !!!!

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Srna Stankovic Srna Stankovic   {K:172232} 3/30/2007
Perfectly composed my dear ... Beautiful view ...
Wonderful depth ... Great colors ... your first Sunny day is so very well presented to us my dear from all aspects ... !!! Excellent done my dear !!!
with love
Srna
7 +++++

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Jose Ignacio (Nacho) Garcia Barcia Jose Ignacio (Nacho) Garcia Barcia   {K:96391} 3/30/2007
marvelous peaceful scene. wonderful tones. a delight. 7+++++++++++++

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/30/2007
I just did it because I wanted to post an image , I will add it -- that I had taken yesterday with-out me in it of course -- but I found out that using the aperture f/36 for distance does not give a good clarity, or is very hard to get a good clarity-- even on a tripod which I was using.. so not posting it now but showing You:) It is 2 miles north of me + at the same place about 100 ft back from the bay at the Salmon River Estuary ! Now I need to go back to get this pretty shot and give it more clarity !!! Doyle is really been a blessing in helping me learn ... if you want to read any of his critiques to me you may find them very helpful and he loves to help people who want to learn , he's great!!!
Michele~

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Once Again !!


Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/30/2007
Oh Thank YOU sooooo much dear Pradnya but you should not have to write it all down... You must have some kind of post processing software since you do make lovely frames right ? I have several , but none that are much good alone, just photfiltre for me to make frames from, and still picassa for straightening and occasional fine tunning, altho it is rather harsh, anyway the point is these programs all give me the shooting information for each image.. as well as the Picture Project that transfers my images from camera to PC.. This makes it very easy to see what your settings are as you post.

I have not used the run mode so this is very helpful information Pradnya .Thanks soo much !! I do appreciate your kindness my dear
Love,
Michele~

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Pradnya D Pradnya D   {K:3875} 3/30/2007
I just realised you changed you profile pic..
It is a pretty picture.. beautiful background..
Which place is that?
-Pradnya

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Pradnya D Pradnya D   {K:3875} 3/30/2007
Sure..!
From now onwards I will post all settings..
It is just that I am too lazy to note it down all settings.. but if it is useful to you ( probably it is useful to me also) I will surely write it..
I will write it for my previously posted images also.

We are in same boat Michele, this is also my first SLR ( or DSLR), and I don't have any other lens except 18-55mm ( comes with camera). I shot "Goose" photo in run mode (there is icon 'man running'). When u shoot in this mode, only care has to take is that, try to get as much as light from surrounding since it doesn't use flash.
I hope this is helpful, I will post more info about setting for this shot afterwards( I don't have it right now).

Love,
Pradnya

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/30/2007
Pradnya this is my first SLSR and I am having problems with my settings at times.. You seem to do very well and I appreciate it when you post your settings so I can learn better-- I am watching you very close my dear -- I have no other lens, just the one it came with.. Were you using any other lens when you shot the goose trying to fly ? Those were really good shots...?
Michele~

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Pradnya D Pradnya D   {K:3875} 3/30/2007
Spring or Fall....image is just beautiful..
I really loved different color tones you got in there..Well done!!!
Yeah...I am spending more time taking photos..I think it is because D40.. its nice to play with it..
-Pradnya

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/30/2007
Yep I sure do ... and it was a hard choice in choosing which one to post... but I was going for the depth and thought this one I posted showed it better:(

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/30/2007
Thank YOU for the explanation Doyle. Being me I always have to try the EXTREME cases...but it's the only way to learn I know of ...I mean you could have told me all of that-- but if I hadn't tried it -- I wouldn't know 'just how right You are'... I would have a question mark in my mind and I cannot fuction with that ,LOL !! I understand much better now . You should write a book for real people after they read the manual !!!

With much appreciation ,
Michele~

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Doyle D. Chastain Doyle D. Chastain   {K:101119} 3/30/2007
I suspect You already know this has a much better contrast (the added shot) . . . compare them side by side. See the difference? :)

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

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Doyle D. Chastain Doyle D. Chastain   {K:101119} 3/30/2007
Hi Michele:

Your shutter speed is auto-set on Aperture priority. The f/36 is a tad extreme and will make the shutter speed slow . . . at slow shutterspeed . . . something I would recommend against unless you're trying to smooth water or some such thing . . . you will have MANY factors that can introduce blur into the image. For example, a light breeze, even in the distance and nowhere near you will soften the fine texture of the grasses into a less focused area . . . where ever it can move something . . . like leaves in a tree.

For landscapes . . . I'd suggest f/4 to f/5.6 (though it could go up towards f/8) . . . with a faster shutterspeed as the result. By doing that . . . you get a deeper field of focus and more of the image will be very sharp.

At f/20 or f/22 you lose contrast and sharpness and (with one exception) I would avoid that at all costs. The ONE exception would be if shooting a sunset where a glimpse of the sun might peak from behind a cloud. THEN, at f/22, you're going to get visible sunrays and the mood of the shot will be better even though the contrast and sharpness will be lessened.

You do not need three consecutive shots if you use the timer-delay. But I suspect this wasn't necessarily a motion blur you could control . . . but one due to the slow shutter instead.

Can't speak for Martin but I suspect the f/36 seemed quite extreme and the shutter speed may not have seemed correctly derived . . . who knows? But the wispy branches on the top left, trees, blades of grass . . . all these things would benefit from a 1/1000 or 1/1500 sec shutter speed - You can go shutter priority to get the correct aperture or stay on aperture priority and set at f/4 to f5.6 and get the same (or similar results).

Keep in mind . . . Shutter speed is for sharpness of the image . . . Aperture for depth of focus . . . and they need to balance to get the correct exposure . . . Either on priority will fix the other for you to get a good exposure . . . for now . . . :)

You're doing fine . . .

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/30/2007
Oh Thank You for your comments and wishes dear Annemtte .... I hope that will will get to do the same :)

Best wishes,
Michele~

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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen   {K:55244} 3/30/2007
Ah yes, Spring has definately arrived - just look at those bright green leaves! I hope you get to take many walks and shoot tons of photos while Spring is in the air.
Take care
Annemette

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/30/2007
I did take 3 shots tho not consecutive and This one did not have the birds in it yet..but maybe it was a sharper image ? The settings were also a bit different-
1/1000s
f/5.6
focal length 55mm ISO 200 maybe I should not go for the distance until I master the tripod ...
It's just a question?

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Sharper?


Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/30/2007
Thank You for the great critique Doyle--- One day soon I might get the hang of this . I will try the 3 consecutive shots, and the self-timer- as I don't know why else the image was not as clear as it should be.. I appreciate these tips and it was a very slow shutter speed altho I don't know why Martin says it doesn't compute- (?) This is the information my camera tells me- so I am confused. I had used aperture priority and chose f/36 and the camera adjusts itself as far as shutter speed for this---- so what's wrong with 1/20s ?
I appreciate your time and value your words soooooo much.
Thank You ,
Michele~

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/30/2007
Thank YOU so much for your kind comment and your support dear Pablo !

Michele~

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/30/2007
Hi Gennaro,
Thank You so much for your comment ! I value it very much :)
Michele~

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/30/2007
What a wonderful comment my dear Riny ! Thank You for your kind words:)) I am still having some trouble with my settings... so all I can do is keep trying everyday, that is why I post so many images... trying to get it right more than just one time out of 10 times:)
Your words support my attemps and keep me happy while I learn, I value them so much !!
Wishing You a Great Week-end too dearest friend:)
A hug,
Michele~

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/30/2007
Thank You Asim, I appreciate your comment,
-All The Best, Michele~

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Doyle D. Chastain Doyle D. Chastain   {K:101119} 3/30/2007
Hi Michele.....

The composition is good but the clarity lacks the significant depth associated with the traditional landscapes. Martin has a point. Barring other issues, an f stop of 36 seems to indicate that there should have been a very wide depth of field. That would be a very small opening, by the way . . . since the higher the f/stop, the deeper the DOF, and the slower the shutter speed to get proper exposure.

If you note . . . the gulls are not sharply focused. With a deep DOF, they, the foreground and the distant bank should all be more clear. Camera motion MIGHT be an issue, even with the tripod, depending on wind, etc . . . since 1/20 is not the fastest of shutter speeds. Also, sometimes there is a slight motion both when you push the shutter release and when you release it. There are two ways to fight this without spending a nickle. First, take a series of three in rapid fire mode (if your camera does series or repetitive shots with one push of the button. The middle shot then, would not have a button pushed nor released. Also - You might consider using the self-timer setting . . . so that NOTHING touches the camera . . . not even you . . . When the shot is taken. Most people use this for self portraits but it makes a good remote shutter release too!

Composition, scenery and colors are all really good!!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

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Pablo Dylan Pablo Dylan   {K:63918} 3/30/2007
Beautiful landscape with wonderful depth.
Well done dear Michele.

Pablo

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Gennaro  Manna   {K:21301} 3/30/2007
Hi Michele,
beautiful landscape, great colors and composition..
gennaro

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Riny Koopman Riny Koopman   {K:102911} 3/30/2007
Looks like a picture from a nature book dear Michele,what can I say..:) Perfectly composed my dear friend,have a great weekend,warm regards,riny

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Asim Roy Asim Roy   {K:10051} 3/30/2007
A great landscape capture Michele, very nice composition, love, asim

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/30/2007
Hi Martin--

I am not sure - I think the shutter speed must have been 150 ... would that compute ?

Michele~

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Martin . Martin .   {K:24957} 3/30/2007
Mich,

Are you sure your stat's are correct, because this doesn't compute...

Marty

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/30/2007
Thank You Pradnya-- when I took the picture I thought it looked like Spring but after I posted it -- I thought Oh My it looks Like Fall :( haaa!!! Sometimes Spring and Fall look simular I guess !!!
-Best wishes,
Michele~
PS this is so nice you seem to have more time than when you were in Chicago !! I hope it last for you :)

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Pradnya D Pradnya D   {K:3875} 3/30/2007
It is very pleasant image.. nice color shades you have chosen n your composition. Beautiful view !!!
-Pradnya

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/30/2007
Thank YOU Robbie.... for your time to comment and to view. I appreciate it.
Best wishes,
Michele~

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Robert Chin   {K:22282} 3/30/2007
Well composed image Michele,lovely colors and a peaceful,relaxing view.
Take care
Robbie

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Michele Carlsen Michele Carlsen   {K:146013} 3/30/2007
Thank YOU Gust@vo !!!

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Gustavo Scheverin Gustavo Scheverin   {K:164501} 3/30/2007
Bonito paisaje natural.
Un abrazo!

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