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Critique By:
Brian Veleker (K:17)
5/4/2004 4:52:41 AM
Thanks. Your portfolio is awesome.
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Critique By:
Ameet Mallapur (K:1575)
4/12/2004 4:35:33 AM
Fantastic!!!
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Critique By:
Ameet Mallapur (K:1575)
4/12/2004 4:34:14 AM
I LOVE THIS ERIKA!!!!!!!
the blurness just adds too the whole image,
i so wish u uploaded a whole bunch more!!!!
(WAKE UP PAUL!!!!!!!!)
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Critique By:
Taher Bazoun (K:157)
4/7/2004 12:45:56 AM
I am so sorry but did not understand ????
shutter?
colores?
suject?
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Critique By:
Daithí O' Donoghue (K:838)
3/31/2004 3:09:36 AM
Editor's choice? Why Not?
Without a doubt this photo is perfect for the editor's choice. At least it has stimulated real interest and honest commentary. I've been reading over comments and some like the photo, some don't. Personally, I'm more intrigued by it than anything else and maybe that's the objective of an abtract. Clearly, as the editor chose it, the editor liked it but given the range of commentary to date on this image, it's also clear that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Anyway don't they say that all art is subjective? If so,thank God for that as without subjectivity there probably wouldn't be creativity.
So thanks to the editor for choosing this image, and to Erika for the photo itself. Keep on snappin'!!
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Critique By:
Brian Cuasito (K:94)
3/30/2004 8:45:53 PM
ok im sure im not the only one.. but i dont get it.
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Critique By:
G L (K:1676)
3/30/2004 4:36:30 PM
Don't like it...at all...but...congratulations on your EC and welcome.
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Critique By:
Ahmet Baki Kocaballi (K:13618)
3/30/2004 7:23:13 AM
i like it as an abstract ..
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Critique By:
Angelo Villaschi (K:49617)
3/30/2004 6:38:45 AM
I wouldn't crop a Polaroid either, let it be said. The sugestion was made with "tongue in cheek", although I do find the wall corner distracting and somehow not in keeping with the abstract nature of the image --- perhaps it is too easily recogniseable, whereas the rest of the frame is more abstract.
Erika, perhaps you can try another Polaroid, slightly recomposed so the wall is unbroken? Just a thought...
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Critique By:
JP Zorn (K:533)
3/30/2004 6:24:09 AM
I wouldn't crop a polaroid - and certainly not this one. Everything seems fairly essential here.
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Critique By:
Minden Koopmans (K:19)
3/30/2004 5:42:29 AM
I love the anonymity of hotel rooms and everything that they connote. I am glad that you chose to have the man's face visible, even though it is dark.
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Critique By:
Mark Beltran (K:32612)
3/30/2004 2:23:38 AM
I've seen this man many times. It was me many times. I was just never successful with him with my camera. Not yet.
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Critique By:
Mark Beltran (K:32612)
3/30/2004 2:20:47 AM
This type of media has a quality all its own. It makes me glad to know that photography does not rely solely on a perfect piece of glass. And that quality is not defined by a rigid set of criteria; one of them being a sharp rendition. This is a photograph I can be comfortable with and yet it challenges my seeing; that part of me that does not verbalizes all that well. This really deserves Editor's Choice.
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Critique By:
Brian Veleker (K:17)
3/30/2004 1:20:59 AM
Angelo:
I see your point about the crop. Being a Polaroid, I wanted to leave it as is. If I expand this photo outside it's Polaroid frame, I'll try the crop out. Thanks!
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Critique By:
Phil M (K:11526)
3/30/2004 12:58:49 AM
Great shot, congrats on EC! 
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Critique By:
Angelo Villaschi (K:49617)
3/30/2004 12:29:45 AM
I'd like to echo Paul Lara's comments. In fact, with due respect to Steven, Altaf and the others who have posted, but the "volume of criticism" seems to have been spurred on mainly by Paul's initial post.
Don't get me wrong: this is MUCH better than the usual inane and vacuous list of "great shot" comments one usually reads. However, I feel this would not have happened if someone did not have the guts to question, to sincerely criticise. Kudos to Paul.
And I guess congrats to Altaf for choosing it. I wonder if Paul would have commented on it had it not been EC. However, after his two posts, I am left wondering whether the image was chosen because of its beauty or because of its debate-generating value.
No matter: the editor's choice is, after all, a choice made by the editor. (Pun intended)
Yes, I can see some beauty in it. Yes, I might consider hanging it on a wall, too. Maybe if that wall corner on the left was cropped out... :-)
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Critique By:
Andreas Wolkerstorfer (K:5090)
3/30/2004 12:17:31 AM
a good example for the confusing reply system here ... but its about the photo more than about words.
So I want to add a further interpretation, found with a friend, viewing this photo: its like waking up, first glimpse in the morning, you dont want to know the time ...
and a technical note: I guess, you wanted to capture more of the clock, but you didtnt get all of it what the viewfinder showed ... (parallax) ..
its a pity that you deleted your first Polaroid posting here ... hope to see more
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Critique By:
Brian Veleker (K:17)
3/29/2004 11:53:43 PM
I agree Randy. Please keep in mind I haven't paid my dues. This is only the second or third image I have posted here. I feel proud of it though. I feel proud because of the reaction this photo as brought. I didn't ask to be on the Editor's Choice. I'm so new to this site, I'm not sure how it works. I am happy to be acknowledged. Good or bad.
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Critique By:
Brian Veleker (K:17)
3/29/2004 11:49:45 PM
I agree. This is truly the first shot of mine that has brought about pro and con reaction. This is what I seek. I value to pros as much as the cons. Thank you everyone.
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Critique By:
Brian Veleker (K:17)
3/29/2004 11:47:25 PM
Thank you. With all humility.
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Critique By:
Randy Lorance (K:24769)
3/29/2004 10:51:49 PM
Well, I think it has a lot to do with...how you say...'the kings clothes'. How many people would consider this as something of a special image if not first chosen as editor's choice? I see way too many wonderful photos go by unnoticed as photos such as this bask in the light of the main page.
I would love to see the effect it would have on comments and ratings if ,say for the first 24 hours, submitted photos were anonymous, judged purely on their merits, rather than influenced by names or other's opinions.
I have been unimpressed by several choices lately of what is displayed on the main page. This is just my biased opinion, but I don't really feel that MANY very good photographs are getting their fair chance. Especially when several photographers are repeatedly chosen by editors for prominence at this site. If I am wrong, just check the ratings,comments, and favorites of editor's choices, prior to(or even afterwards) compared to so many other photographs as judged by Usefilm members as better images, but never given front page attention.
Randy
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Critique By:
al shaikh (K:15790)
3/29/2004 8:46:05 PM
Well said steven, I hope that there are many more images like this that generate useful discussion on the images. I would like there to be at least one per day if not more.
Usefilm will be heading more in this direction and encouraging debate among images.
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Critique By:
Steven H (K:7142)
3/29/2004 8:15:58 PM
I have found reading through the comments really very interesting. This may be an example of a "perfect" Editor's Choice purely by virtue of the substance and volume of criticism it has generated . . . Most Editors Choices give birth to dozens upon dozens of virtually identical, and almost invariably positive, comments . . . this one, by contrast, created a real controversy, and for that reason alone, justifies the EC designation . . . so congratulations to Erika, and to the Editors for an interesting, and controversial choice.
On the personal side, I think above all the universe of color and form tightly bound into the body of this shot justify an EC from an aesthetic point of view. It is a simple, elegant, and uncomplicated concept and image, and sometimes beauty is just that, unadulterated pleasure of sight, without the need for "meaning" behind the pleasure.
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Critique By:
JP Zorn (K:533)
3/29/2004 7:40:43 PM
Very, very cool.
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Critique By:
Paul's Photos (K:35235)
3/29/2004 7:33:53 PM
I like the photo.. the esp the colors and the lighting. nice abstract. I would not choose it for EC but that is a very subjective thing anyway. Besides,....I am not the editor LOL. I wish the clock face was in view to show the blurriness of time.
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Critique By:
Phillip Cohen (K:10561)
3/29/2004 6:37:14 PM
I like this image a lot. I can see why it is an editors choice. The image has a very painterly (is that a word) quality to it. The brush strokes have been replaced by a little grain and fuzziness. It is abstract enough but you can almost tell what it is. The colors are nice and soothing and the lighting is spot on. It all works very nicely. I would hang this on my wall.
Not all images have to be Weston sharp. This image is definitely a piece of fine art. The fact that it was totally made in the camera with no after the fact modifications via photoshop makes it even that much better in my mind.
Good job Erika, well seen and well captured. Keep working at it and post often. I look forward to viewing more of your images. Don't be affraid to experiment and go for that masterpiece.
Phil
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Critique By:
al shaikh (K:15790)
3/29/2004 6:11:05 PM
Why Editor's Choice?
If Erika does not mind I will answer the questions here.
This image possesses several qualities, which make it an editor's choice image. The first of which is originality, the ability to see a scene differently than what in my opinion the average photographer would make of it. The second would be honesty, is the photographer trying to artificially manipulate the viewer in some manner. (This one is a bit more difficult to describe verbally but quite obvious to the observer). The third would be surprise, after seeing so many images, being surprised is a rare and special thing.
What I liked most about this image was that it is original, beautiful, and just abstract enough to be recognizable but not common.
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Critique By:
Brian Rueger (K:7341)
3/29/2004 2:21:03 PM
Sorry, I don't get it. Editor's choice? Why?
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Critique By:
Maja Gligoric (K:13528)
3/28/2004 6:49:00 PM
Obviously I am crazy,but I can't see here nothing
special.Blury image without some point.
Congratulations for editor's choice.
I like pictures taken with polaroid.
Regards
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Critique By:
Paul Lara (K:88111)
3/28/2004 6:08:00 PM
"what is it about the photo that may not deserve EC?"
Well, it just seems to me a shot that is blurry, out-of-hue and and lacks any coherent message (to me). I am a HUGE fan of abstracts, but this doesn't seem to take the message anywhere.
Is time vaporous?
Is my initial morning vision of my clock one that's blurred and angry?
Is my night stand something that's devoid of anything except my reminder of when to wake up?
...all those things could be valid concepts behind your image, but alas, all I'm left to go with is 'anothe polaroid shot' in your comments.
Hey, congratulations on garnering EC for this shot, Erika, I just wish to understand the notion behind the image. Something too many Usefilm uploaders seem to neglect. 
-Paul
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