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  Photography Forum: Photography Help Forum: 
  Q. Question about Modelling

Asked by Max Ferberov    (K=83) on 3/17/2004 
Hello all!

My friend asked me to help her, and make a modelling portfolio for her... but I really have no idea how to do that, anyone can help me?
[i mean what is an actual "portfolio for a model" made up of? how many pictures, what size of print...color or black-n'-white?]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP PPL!!!


    



 Dai Hunter   (K=2028) - Comment Date 3/18/2004
Three things to consider:

1) IF she has never modeled before - and is looking for representation - all she really needs are some good snaps to send out to agencies. Head shot + full length, full front or 3/4 profile, that shows her overall figure. NOT overly posed. Very little or NO make-up at all. Neutral background (not distracting to the eye so the focus is on her alone) - get in close so her image nearly fills the frame.

2) "Portfolios", often misunderstood as to what they really are, are NOT made in one go but are the product of several photographers using different styles over time + added to that, tear sheets from published work where the model appeared in print.

3) Starting out, however, a model might have a "book" made (as opposed to being able to have a "portfolio") that serves as a temporary portfolio. That CAN be made by a single photographer - and should include normally about 6 - 10 (10x8 or A-4 prints will do - sleeved and in a binder) excellent photographic shots (lighting/and/technique) posed in different make-up / hair styles / clothes styles. To do this right you will absolutely need to use a make-up artist and hair stylist. These images can be a mix of studio and / or location shots.

Some agencies will initially use that "book" to show tyheir clients and some will insist on doing their own with their own preferred photographers (and may charge the model for that)





 Max Ferberov   (K=83) - Comment Date 3/18/2004
Thanks dai

anything else I should know?

how much do you think a proffessional photographer would take for a 'book' like that? :)





 Peter McDonald   (K=4951) - Comment Date 3/24/2004
hello there, most portfolios usually have a formal pose with formal clothes. a casual photo in casual clothes and a sporty type photo etc.

shoot head and shoulders and full lenght of the 3 different types of set ups. if you don't have studio flash shoot outside on overcast day.this will cause no or little shadow on the models face.

in costing try taking what it cost to shoot and produce the photo's and double it. later on when you are getting a contestant product you can raise your prices.





 Dai Hunter   (K=2028) - Comment Date 3/24/2004
Max, sorry for the delay in answering.

Peter did touch on the points I would have made regarding content of a model's book or portfolio. Additionally, I might add that there can be a mix of B&W and colour images.

As to cost - typically (in the UK) charges to the model (for prints and re-prints) for this kind of work run about UK£20 per fininshed image (fully touched up prints). Thus, 6 different images would be billed at about UK£120 and for a set of 10 about UK£200. (I know of some photographers that charge more). Thereafter you should also add to that some extra for costs of the sitting (your time and overheads), film, lab ect as the basic cost of making the images.

The range of prices is quite astounding if you look around - from several hundred UK pounds to several thousand, available from different studios.







 Scott McFadden   (K=5663) - Comment Date 3/26/2004
Max
For some better ideas on what is required you may find visiting a Modeling agency useful for this.
Some may prove helpful though care must be taken to keep friendly if your viewed as competition.





 Max Ferberov   (K=83) - Comment Date 3/26/2004
thanks guys!
As always you've been very helpful!
Maybe I should come to an agency and pretent I am a model... it's lying, but atleast that way they won't try and give me wrong information :)
Also, I forgot how it's called, but does a portfolio-starting book need one of those pages with thumbnailed photo's on it? and what about Negatives? do I get to keep those, or do I have to give them up as well? :)





 Dai Hunter   (K=2028) - Comment Date 3/26/2004
Max,

1) No thumbnail sheet goes in the book or portfolio - but you should give one to the model so they have a reference to everything you shot - who knows they may come back for prints of some of the other shots they did not use, or want, the first time.

2) YOU keep the negatives - the copyright is yours and so are the negs.





 Max Ferberov   (K=83) - Comment Date 3/27/2004
ah! great! :)
well I gues i can help her then :)
by the way...
thought you might be interested in this:

I found lights that simulate daylight [full spectrum] and take up only 25 watts (really bright though, almost like a 500W light) anyway, they are really good, Make is called "Pur-Lite" here is a link:
http://gateway.canadiantire.ca/driver.php?fileid=2534374303514553_1408474395348027_845524443248471_

really good in a softbox too! :) enjoy





 Myles King   (K=791) - Comment Date 4/6/2004
As far as price goes, I recently had some new modeling pictures taken and was charged $375 for 2 days (about 5 hours overall) plus the cost of the prints I wanted




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