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  Photography Forum: Photography Help Forum: 
  Q. lighting help

Asked by John Test    (K=1956) on 3/29/2005 
i take mostly pictures of flowers close up and am having problems getting the appearance of depth.i have tried various colors and different simple lighting.could anyone give some hints or a direction to head for a solution??

tnx Quinton Weeks


    





 Scott McFadden   (K=5663) - Comment Date 3/29/2005
Depth is made not by light but lack of.
so try some diffrent ideas - two flash heads mounted onto a bracket will produce nice side lighting if one is slightly less powerfully set.
a light behind your subject will change the entire look as it enhances its denisty and shape values.
really the best idea is to use off camera flash/s if you can.
now you dont have to spend a fortune to achieve this if your prepared to experiment a little.
a small slave flash should serve well as macro lighting then to trigger it use on board camera flash toned down by a paper baggie.
this should create a nice ultra soft fill which can add detail to shadow without overpowering them into a flat picture





 Scott McFadden   (K=5663) - Comment Date 3/29/2005
oh almost forgot seperation of subject and background is very nesscery in order to simplify the picture and add extra depth





 John Test   (K=1956) - Comment Date 3/29/2005
you have given me some food for thought and a direction.thank you very much





 John Test   (K=1956) - Comment Date 3/29/2005
also i dont think i can slave a strobe off of my kodak dx7630.





 Scott McFadden   (K=5663) - Comment Date 3/30/2005
get a seperate flash unit that is a slave flash (mine was an old manual flash with a syncro eye adapter to turn it into a slave flash unit)
you can get them cheap with inbuilt slave function though so if youve got to buy something anyway spend the extra 10 bucks its proably worth it.

diffusion of the onboard camera flash will stop it becoming the main source of light and create a small fill while also activating the slave light.
masking tape has also been used though i would recommend a white paper bag as its less heat sensitive and will save the onboard flash any dramas.

I have used this technique on early digitals with little manual overide options and it works.






 Scott McFadden   (K=5663) - Comment Date 3/30/2005
slaves are triggered by light changes so beware of places where shadows arent constant as this will cuase the flash to go off for no apparent reason.
(thought my flash had broke when this happened to me :)





 John Test   (K=1956) - Comment Date 3/30/2005
you just showed me you are NEVER too old to learn sommething.thank you





 John Test   (K=1956) - Comment Date 4/3/2005
do you have any experiance with the phoenix or digi-slave products?





 Scott McFadden   (K=5663) - Comment Date 4/3/2005
hmmn no i dont have experiance with phoenix slaves but I have used considerable other forms and brands of slave flash.
I use sls studio stuff now but I started with an ac slave adapter you can screw into a threaded socket.
Living in australia the models are a little less expansive in choice vs cost so why not get something cheaper and try experimenting ?
best of luck




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