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  Photography Forum: Photography Help Forum: 
  Q. Want to get a general idea about the using of various filters in outdoor situation.. please help

Asked by Ayan Mukherjee    (K=7990) on 7/30/2005 
I'm an amature photographer from India. I want to get an idea about the using of filters in outdoor situation... help me please.


    



 John Erin   (K=460) - Comment Date 7/30/2005
color or black&white film???




Don Loseke
 Don Loseke   (K=32503) - Comment Date 7/31/2005
I see that you are using a digital camera for your last pictures. About the only filter that you can use is a polarizer. You can achieve other filter effects in photoshop when you process your images. Don.





 Deb Mayes   (K=19605) - Comment Date 7/31/2005
Ayan,

There are some excellent books on the subject of filters that contain illustrations. You also might check before and after examples of filter use on vendor sites like B&H and Adorama.

As for Don's statement, it is so NOT true. You can use any filter on digital you would use with a film camera - just make sure you're not using auto white balance or the camera will compensate and eliminate the effect of the filter.




Kevin H
 Kevin H   (K=22502) - Comment Date 8/1/2005
I think the 3 basic filters that people use.

Polarize filter: ssential for outdoor photography; deepens intensity of blue skies; reduces or eliminates glare.

Neutral Density: Absorbs 1, 2, and 3 stops, respectively. Provides balanced exposures and depth-of-field control. Eliminates overly bright, washed out images.

Neutral Grad Density: same as a neutral density filter but only half of the filter is darken. It's usually used for landscaping to prevent the sky being overexposed while having the rest of the picture well exposed.

UV: Mostly there for protecting your lens from being scratch. Not everyone does that. I'm one of those people.

Hope this helps,
Kevin





Don Loseke
 Don Loseke   (K=32503) - Comment Date 8/1/2005
Deb, maybe you can enlighten me as to why you would want to use other filters on a digital image. You can achieve better results if you are good at photoshop and still have the original image to work with. Don.





 Deb Mayes   (K=19605) - Comment Date 8/1/2005
Don, you gave the answer yourself: "You can achieve better results if you are good at photoshop."

IF you are good at it, and IF you like to use PS, and IF you have already spent the cash to buy PS. Not everyone is/does/has.

Some (like me) do both. There's a lot to be said for making the original photo the best it can be in camera. Let's be honest - PS duplicates some filters better than others. Some of us want to spend our time taking photographs, not burning up a keyboard and staring at a screen.

Finally, PS is an expensive product but not the only product; and a person who says they're an amateur photographer may not be able to afford it. It's wrong to present one's personal preferance as the only option, and it's wrong for every "solution" to require a huge expenditure of funds.

If PS works for you, I'm happy. But no one's method of working works for everyone else. :)

P.S. Thank you, Kevin, for answering the original question.





 Bad Site   (K=979) - Comment Date 8/1/2005
Photoshop can't replace a Neutral Density filter.





 Ayan Mukherjee   (K=7990) - Comment Date 8/1/2005
Thanks a lot to all of you. I'm again going to ask another question... that can PS give the effect of the oeiginal filters? According to Ace Fury, PS does not give.





 Ayan Mukherjee   (K=7990) - Comment Date 8/1/2005
Thanks Kevin. thanks for your valuable suggestions. i'll try to keep them in mind. Regards ayan




Kevin H
 Kevin H   (K=22502) - Comment Date 8/1/2005
Some Photoshop filters can looks better then the original filters but that can take you hours and you need to have alot of knowledge on how to use photoshop. But that's not always the case.

Some filters can not be duplicated in Photoshop, like a Neutral Density or polarize filter. In the end it's up to you whether you want to spend time on photoshop.

Hope this helps,
Kevin




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