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  Photography Forum: Philosophy Of Photography Forum: 
  Q. What creates the perfect picture?

Asked by Tim Bronkhorst    (K=9391) on 7/6/2004 
What makes the perfect picture?
A scene whit a wonderfull sunset at the background? A special kind of tention between subject, photograph and viewer? The equiptment (film and camera)? Or does the viewer create the perfect picture by liking it or not?

Please tell me about your thoughts...
Tim.


    


Hugo de Wolf
 Hugo de Wolf   (K=185110) - Comment Date 7/6/2004
Hi Tim,

I'm certain such a thing as a Perfect Picture doesn't exist. And thank god for that, too! If there were a formula for creating perfect photos, I'd loose my joy in photography and the possibility to improve my work... )

Besides that there's no such thing as Perfect, there can be made a distinction between subjective matters and objective matters.

Under the caption Subjective, one can list things as Tension, atmosphere, balance, composition and emotions.

Objective would be the sharpness of an image, the perspective lack of tilt in horizons and tonal range; those things can be measured.

Without doubt, the effectiveness of objective aspects of photography will also fade into a grey area, meaning that for different situations, one can also use the objective means I described in an "unperfect" way to achieve a specific effect.

Bottom line: Perfect doesn't exist. And that's a good thing.

Cheers,

Hugo





 Tim Bronkhorst   (K=9391) - Comment Date 7/7/2004
Well if you look at it like this, indeed it's better that the perfect picture doesn't excist. But still don't you photograph to one day reach a perfect photo or something of that kind. For me photographing is like some kind of hunt, a hunt for a good/excellent/perfect picture.




Hugo de Wolf
 Hugo de Wolf   (K=185110) - Comment Date 7/7/2004
Not really, Tim, I look for a steady, constant inmprovement of my work, but I do not expect it to reach "perfect".

Imagine this:

What would you do if you took a perfect photo? Every single shot you will take after that will be at least as good, bust most likely inferior...

Cheers,

Hugo





 Tim Bronkhorst   (K=9391) - Comment Date 7/7/2004
That's right, but doesn't the term perfect improve then? I mean, I've taken a perfect shot up to my capebility's. A day or a week later my capebility's improve and so does the term perfect.






 Scott McFadden   (K=5663) - Comment Date 7/9/2004
The perfect picture would comunicate the point you intended exactly.
of course thats not really possible.






 Richard Thornton   (K=26442) - Comment Date 7/10/2004
The perfect picture exists in your mind, and only there.

Looking at it in another way, if you managed to produce a perfect picture that would be the end of all graphic arts.





 Tim Bronkhorst   (K=9391) - Comment Date 7/10/2004
I think you hit the nail on the head whit that reply. Do you often see a perfect picture in your head?




Tony Diana
 Tony Diana   (K=13396) - Comment Date 8/3/2004
Creo que el dia que alguien pueda hacer la foto perfecta, el resto podremos ir a pescar.

De todas maneras, la subjetividad es la gran riqueza de cualquier expresión artística (o amateur como en mi caso)





 ken krishnan   (K=19102) - Comment Date 8/4/2004
I would agre with Hugo. There is no such thing called 'perfect' picture. Its all very subjective. What is a perfect picture to me would be or could be a crap image to you.

Perhaps one can use the term 'near perfect' picture to explain a good image. Even that does not sound right.

It is kind of a 'Holy grail' - Everyone believes that it exists but no one can prove it(except Steven Speelberg, perhaps).

Regards,
ken.






Darren Arena
 Darren Arena   (K=2999) - Comment Date 8/5/2004
I have found that ,not just in photography, but in life,that the truths that we all cling to are all just points of view. Is it truly a great picture or is it just another piece of junk mail?
If a person shares our point of view toward what we ourselves see as great photography, does that also make him a great photographer? Or...does he merely stand in the same "place" looking at the subject from our viewpoint?
Granted, there are photos that we all agree are breath taking, but I suppose it will always be a mystery as to what sparks certain senses, or what causes our eyes to work with our mind/emotions/childhood/past experiences/smells?
Perhaps I am rambling, or perhaps others share my point of view.





 Adam E. J. Squier   (K=9803) - Comment Date 8/5/2004
In Photography, as in other forms of Art, there is good art and there is bad art. Only by studying and learning can you hope to differentiate the two. There. I said it. It's not all completely subjective, though subjectivity has something to do with it. That's why there are art critics who "know their stuff" and wannabes who don't necessarily know what they're talking about.

The saying "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" may be true, but it doesn't make it Art. The best way to discover the difference is to take some Art History courses on a college level.





 Margie Takoch   (K=331) - Comment Date 8/8/2004
The enjoyment you and others get from your picture is what makes it 'perfect'.





 Mark Follmer   (K=21) - Comment Date 8/8/2004
First you have to see it with your eyes. Then you have to figure out how to take the picture with the camera.




Tony Diana
 Tony Diana   (K=13396) - Comment Date 8/27/2004
En la época barroca, una obra de teatro perfecta tenia que cumplir unos requisitos: que el tiempo en escena correspondiese con el tiempo real y que el lugar en escena fuese posible en ese tiempo. Moliere era perfecto para el barroco, pero no lo fue para teatros posteriores.

Existen varias obras de Mozart que en su epoca fueron dedicadas a teatro de "variedades" para publico pobre, como por ejemplo algunos de sus divertimentos, los cuales enfurecian a sus mecenas, especialmente a los vieneses, pero hoy en dia estan consideradas grandes obras de arte.

No toda fotografia es arte pero no todo encasillamiento en normas es conveniente para crear





 Andew Gondokusumo   (K=833) - Comment Date 11/25/2004
It all depends on your mind set. Everyone has a different opinion of what is perfect for them. One person would think that one picture that somebody else's have posted is a very bad looking with a lot of deatils lost, wrong exposure, blah, bla, bla.... But the one who posted that image might think that well that's my picture, my imagination, and my opnion what is a good picture to me. So you cannot just make a line and generalize "the perfect picture."

Andrew





 Pico diGoliardi   (K=540) - Comment Date 11/29/2004
"What makes the perfect picture?"

Incorrect. Who makes the perfect pitcher. What is on second base.







 Pico diGoliardi   (K=540) - Comment Date 11/30/2004
The Real Answer is that the critic with the most power declares the Perfect Picture - then his credibility and reputation goes straight down the drain. It's a silly question.





José Azevedo
 José Azevedo   (K=9845) - Comment Date 12/1/2004
The moment, the eye, the mind. Of both photographer and viewer. How many times haven't you not liked or enjoyed some images at first then, after some time, began to like them?

Equipment is just a tool. Of course some allow you to things others do not, but basically a bad image shot with a Hasselblad will still be a bad image.

Regards to all.




Hanggan Situmorang
 Hanggan Situmorang   (K=24833) - Comment Date 12/7/2004
I think what creates the perfect picture is if the shooter got what he has intended to be before shooting it. An architect. It's perfect for him. True satisfaction. Even if the final result is not pretty in common or academic term, well, God creates everything in good quality. Photography helps us to realize and thus appreciate it.
Hanggan




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