Dan Wright
(K=97) - Comment Date 11/16/2004
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To date, I have tried only the Canon papers and I feel the best is Canon Pro Photo Paper. Biggest drawback is that it is very glossy. This works for me, but may not for others. I've researched other papers including Ilford. From what I've read most people feel the gloss Ilford and Canon are very similar. With everything being equal look at the cost (Ilford is cheaper usually). For matte I've heard the Ilford's Galarie Classic Pearl is top notch. Just remember to download the correct profiles.
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Chris Lauritzen
(K=14949) - Comment Date 11/16/2004
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Try Moab paper, I have tried them all and settled on Moab. www.moab.com
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Chris Lauritzen
(K=14949) - Comment Date 11/16/2004
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Sorry the link is www.moabpaper.com
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Amanda Peek
(K=119) - Comment Date 11/17/2004
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Where do I download profiles? Can you tell me a little more about that? Thanks :)
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Dan Wright
(K=97) - Comment Date 11/17/2004
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First of all we're quickly getting into a realm of digital photography that I am not an expert in, (I have just enough information to be dangerous :P ..)
Most digital files are in the RGB color space. However, desktop printers use CYMK colors (or more) in order to make the print. In our case the i9900 uses 8 colors. The profiles are used to help convert from RGB to CYMK. They and how to interpret the file data so the printer knows how much of each color to drop onto the paper in order to get the right color. Additionally, each paper has certain characteristics to absorb different inks at different rates. The profiles adjusts for this as well.
For the i9900, when you change the Media type settings, along with Print Quality, you are telling the printer which profile to use.
When you loaded the software for the printer, you loaded the Canon paper and ink profiles. Changing papers (or inks) typically will require new profiles in order to get good reproductions. The profiles are usually available from the paper or ink supplier. If you can't get them, there's always good ol' trial and error!
Ilford profile link:
http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/prod_html/galerie/ijprofiles/default.asp
I hope this helps...Dan
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Dan Wright
(K=97) - Comment Date 11/17/2004
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I had seen this file on a different forum. It helped me tremendously.
-Dan
http://homepage.mac.com/renard/ls/Canon_ICC_Profile_Guide.pdf
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Bart Aldrich
(K=7614) - Comment Date 12/15/2004
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The 13 x19 color prints I've done with it are fantastic right out of the box!
I tried one 4x6 b&w print and it was slightly reddish toned.
Is there a secret to doing proper greyscale with the i9900?
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Amanda Peek
(K=119) - Comment Date 12/15/2004
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I used the Ilford ICC profiles as suggested for the paper I was using and the B&W images came out great.
The only caveat is NOT selecting the grayscale option in the i9900 printer menu when you go to print from photoshop. I followed the exact instructions Ilford provided for utilizing the ICC profiles.
Still having trouble with the Epson Matte Heavyweight paper. The Epson site doesn't seem to provide profiles for use with printers other than their own.
Thanks for the help, everyone. Still working out printing color!
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Richard Dakin
(K=12915) - Comment Date 1/2/2005
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Most of my friends using Canon printers are pleased with their colour output, but have experienced MUCH difficulty in getting true B+W's. If you are doing primarily B+W, you might try using Lyson "Quad Black" inks.
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Craig Nisnewitz
(K=625) - Comment Date 5/26/2005
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If you use the Quad inks are you limited to only B&W printing?
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Richard Dakin
(K=12915) - Comment Date 5/26/2005
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Hi Craig. Part of the conversion process, is to use special Lyson cleaner cartridges to clean out the old ink. You then install the new Quad Black cartridges. If you wanted to revert to using colour again, you would have to run the cleaners before re-installing your colour cartridges. I'm lucky in the sense that I ONLY print and sell my B+W images, so I avoid having to do this on my Epson 1280. If there was a demand for my colour work, I think I would buy another printer ... probably an Epson 1800. It really isn't that bad of a process switching though. I know others who do it, they just try to do their B+W's in batches. Hope this helps.
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Craig Nisnewitz
(K=625) - Comment Date 5/27/2005
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I find that when I print B&W in color mode I get a cast which looks like Cyan. If I switch to grayscale printing the cast is gone. I am printing with Photoshop CS set to printer color management. Using glossy, lustre or matte in color printing does not make any difference. In grayscale differences are slight.
I am open to suggestions. I wonder if printing in color mode is really the answer.
Thanks.
Craig
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Richard Dakin
(K=12915) - Comment Date 5/27/2005
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Hi Again Craig,
Before I switched to the "Quad Black" system I got great results by simply switching off the colour cartridge on my Epson. I understand that this is not possible with the Canon. Am I right on that? My main reason for switching inks was actually due to better longevity of the Lyson inks. If I had a newer Epson like the 2200 or the new 1800 this would not be an issue.
I do not know much about Canon printers, only that my friends have experienced the same sort of colour cast problems. As you said paper type seems to make no difference. You might be able to download printing profiles from the Canon website, if you use Canon papers. I have also heard that you simply install an empty colour cartridge(s) on Canon printers so that only the black cartridge is working.
Interestingly I was told by many "experts" that you can not print B+W using only the B+W cartridge. I struggled for months experiencing the same problems you have had, until I stumbled across an article in a British mag that said you COULD do B+W that way. In fact several top Brit B+W specialists did aall their gallery work that way. I tried it and was happy with the results. Like I said, the only reason I switched was for longevity that I think is a benefit to my customers.
B+W sounds easy, but to get it right does take some effort. Good luck, and if all else fails you could buy an Epson 1280 (very inexpensive in the U.S.) and make the conversion. That way you could keep the Canon for your colour work.
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Craig Nisnewitz
(K=625) - Comment Date 5/27/2005
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When you print in Grayscale mode with the i9900 the color seems to be shut off.
I will stay with this method for the time being.
Buying the Epson may be an option once I am sure that the bugs have been eliminated (never really completely are).
Thanks.
Craig
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