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Scott Carr
{K:707} 3/7/2007
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Creative image Doyle, the lightened background and suttle shadows give this image the 3d busting out appearance you were looking for. Well done.
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/21/2006
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Yeah yeah Dave . . . it has knock-off, PS wannabe adjustment layers too!! I will certainly have to experiment. Heck, I might even read the book. ;)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Dave Arnold
{K:55680} 8/21/2006
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Yup, there are maybe a couple of ways to accomplish this. Assuming your knock-off, PS wannabe software (LOL) has the ability to do adjustment layers, you can handle it that way.
Using an adjustment layer in PS, you would black out the form of the bull and rider using the paint brush tool on the adjustment layer itself. Once that is done (the most labor intesive part), you could then adjust the non-blacked out layer to your hearts content. Of course, you would also want to black out the foreground so it is not affected, too. I haven't tried this yet but I'd bet if you use lighter shades of gray as the background continues, the changes would be as heavy as the far background.
It would be something to experiment with, anyway.
Dave
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/21/2006
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Dave:
Man oh Man - that's a great point! Ideally then . . . if I understand your point, I will need to selectively pull the gorund out of the composition and use a graduated change from foreground to BG as it pertains to brightness / contrast, etc. Great point . . . makes sense . . . and thanks for the idea . . . (Now why didn't I think of that)?
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/21/2006
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Thanks Dave . . . appreciate . . . Kind of you , etc. etc. blah blah blah!
:)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Dave Arnold
{K:55680} 8/21/2006
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Okay, as I said, I don't like the lightended background. And in looking at it again, I'll tell you why. While you left the bull and rider at original brightness levels, the ground below them was lightened as if it were background. In doing so, you've lost the 3D appeal or feel.
In order to simulate DOF, you need to keep the longitudinal aspects the same in continuity. In other words, the far background can be blurred or lightened but the foreground needs to portray the same crispness, clarity or brightness as the main subject.
The ground below the left front hoof, for instance, should be the same brightness as the hoof. In effect, you've put this bull on a bike and made him go on a Mary Poppins ride.
That make sense?
Dave
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Dave Arnold
{K:55680} 8/21/2006
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My bad, Doyle. Looks like you did take my suggestion long before I even suggested it. Oh, you're good. I will give you that.
Best wishes, happy shooting and all the good stuff. blah blah blah
Dave Arnold
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/14/2006
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Thanks Fatemeh . . . YOU calling ME creative is the ultimate compliment . . . and I appreciate it very much!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/14/2006
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Thanks Andree . . . intial responses were just the opposite and now . . . apparently . . . the tide is turning. Appreciate the comment though . . . :)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/14/2006
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Wow Susie . . . how very kind of you!!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Fatemeh Rahimi
{K:13523} 8/12/2006
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yes, now i think it's better!
bravo again for your creative mind!
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andree lerat
{K:17476} 8/11/2006
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I like this second version. Great idea and well done. This is an angry bull... :) Andree
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Susie Peek-Swint
{K:7303} 8/11/2006
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I still have to look at the original but love your work Doyle ~ I could see this on a large poster ~ well done!
regards, susie
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/11/2006
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Thanks Maurizio . . . going against the flow on that one but, truth be told, sometimes being different is the ONLY way to go! Appreciate the feedback!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Maurizio Ubaldini
{K:1350} 8/11/2006
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I prefer this, contrasts best from the background, perhaps to darken the background a little one
Ciao
Maurizio
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/11/2006
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LoL!
:)
Thanks my friend . . . just trying to see which is better . . . this or http://www.usefilm.com/image/1158458.html
Appreciate your opinion too!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Maurizio Ubaldini
{K:1350} 8/11/2006
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Hi Doyle, HELP ME!!! there is the bull that goes out from the monitor, nice effect :)
Ciao
Maurizio
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/11/2006
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Thanks Gerhard . . . I didn't realize there WAS a 'typical' subject from this country. Stampede, the big rodeo, is in Canada, yes? My grandparents used to attend regularly. At any rate . . . thank you for your comments!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/11/2006
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Rina!
Thanks so much for the comment! I think I will give this a try and though I use PS 4 Elements primarily . . . I can give it a shot and see what happens! Thank you my 'Down Under' friend! :)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Gerhard BuschEFIAP/AFIAP
{K:18382} 8/11/2006
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A typical subject out of your country interesting and effective presents.Best Regards Gerhard
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Caterina Berimballi
{K:27299} 8/10/2006
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Doyle, you're on fire! What an entertaining trip around your latest uploads it's been! Love where your going with the "Bustin'Out" shots. I do prefer the first one though, but can understand the need to push the bg out. I think simulating a tighter dof would do the trick too. Try making a selection around the background again (making sure to feather, say, 5px) and add gassian blur - 5.0, then go to edit > fade and bring it down to about 40% (experiment to taste). Should give the bg a nice dreamy feel. I'm assuming here that you have photoshop at your disposal...?
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/10/2006
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Thanks Luis . . . appreciate the feedback very much!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Luis Limchiu
{K:3168} 8/10/2006
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Impressive, definitely like this Doyle than the previous, This one has the "pop".
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/10/2006
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Thanks Linda!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Linda Imagefree
{K:72276} 8/10/2006
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Yeah....LOL...now you're talking!!
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/10/2006
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Hehehehee . . . then we're practically twins! I usually don't run with the crowd either! FROM the crowd . . . maybe, but not with them! LoL!
:)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Linda Imagefree
{K:72276} 8/10/2006
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LOL...well I've never been one to run with the crowd!!
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/10/2006
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By the way Leo . . . Do you prefer this to v.1? http://www.usefilm.com/image/1158458.html
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/10/2006
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Thanks Ng . . . and most agree with you. I certainly do. Still, thanks so much for the comments!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/10/2006
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Agreed Phillip . . . I think we have very similar thoughts on this one . . . and the poll seems to bear out this assessment!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/10/2006
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Thanks Robert:
You certainly represent the minority opinion in this case but I like to hear it anyway! Appreciate the kind words!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/10/2006
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Thanks Nacho!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/10/2006
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Thanks Hanggan!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/10/2006
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Thanks Leo!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/10/2006
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Thanks so much J-E!!! I think most agree with you. More importantly . . . I do! (Humbly).
:)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/10/2006
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Ameed:
Thanks for the interesting observations. you mention the land beneath the feet. This shot is version 2 based on previous suggestions and I would be fascinated if you would kindly look at version 1 and give me your thoughts on that! It is http://www.usefilm.com/image/1158458.html.
(By the way - I tend to agree with you. Version 1 was MY idea . . . V.2 was with added suggestions).
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/10/2006
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What can I say, Riny? Thank you my friend!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/10/2006
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Thanks Linda . . . Preferring this one to the other puts you in the minority but I do appreciate the feedback . . . small details like the tail you mention make me see things better than I otherwise would have and therefore . . . your comments have tremendous value to me. Thanks so much!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Engy Farahat
{K:11591} 8/10/2006
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Very creative idae Doyle. I like it.
excellent composition. and great graphics.
both version are fabulous, but I love the first one more. It gives a clear impression of the 'Pop Out'. but anyway, It's great.
well done
ng..
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Phillip Minnis
{K:13131} 8/10/2006
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Oh, Doyle, I have to say I much prefer the first version! :)))
I think the darker background in the first version really helps to 'thrust out' the bull and rider at the viewer.
Cheers
Phil
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Robert Kocs
{K:89085} 8/10/2006
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Yes, I prefer this version the softness is great.
Love the creative idea and the well exetuted work.
Nicely done dear Doyle!
Best wishes
Robert
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Jose Ignacio (Nacho) Garcia Barcia
{K:96391} 8/10/2006
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great moment.fantstic.7
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Hanggan Situmorang
{K:37833} 8/10/2006
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Very neat work, Doyle. The blurred outline gives another dimension of this splendid captured moment. Well done!
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Leo Régnier Я£
{K:67696} 8/10/2006
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Very nice crop and composition my dear friend!!!
Cheers,
Leo
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John-Eric Lemieux
{K:3045} 8/10/2006
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Doyle this is the Sh....T , Very original great capture and wonderful idea ++++++++++++++++7 By the way the original look better greaaaaaat work Doyle...Thank you also for the information "
John Eric
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Ameed El-Ghoul
{K:42215} 8/10/2006
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Doyle, the composition is very creative, I like it allot, it adds a flavor and make it almost as if it was a 3D :)
The only thing regarding the bull jumping out of the picture, I would remove the land beneath its leg to make the leg stands out of the frame completely IMHO this would add to it,
But this doesn't mean by any chance that it is not a neat capture,
Very well composed and captured,
Regards,
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Riny Koopman
{K:102911} 8/10/2006
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You are doing just great, Keep up the good work, Regards,riny
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Linda Imagefree
{K:72276} 8/9/2006
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I like this one Doyle, the rider busting out, first of all is very cool, and the blur and minimization of the background is excellent, the twist of his tail seems to further enhance the busting out mood, very nice work!! Very creative image!!
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/9/2006
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Thanks Ace!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Ace Star
{K:21040} 8/9/2006
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interesting work my friend! really nice :)
excellent
wish you all the best
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Shirley D. Cross-Taylor
{K:174040} 8/9/2006
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Hadn't heard about 'Theresa Lisa".:))) I do enjoy the chuckles you give, Doyle!
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/9/2006
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Well Thank you Mary!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/9/2006
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Thanks Shirley . . . It certainly seems like most people agree . . . including myself. Looks like my instincts were initially good . . . but you know . . . comments and suggestions . . . ideas not previously considered . . . Give 'em a shot and see what the consensus is. In the past . . . changes have become masterpieces after a few minor re-works . . . Like when Leonardo reworked the blonde "Theresa Lisa" into a brunette "Mona Lisa"! You just have to check all the angles and see; if there's any doubt. But thanks so much for your comments!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Mary Slade
{K:40338} 8/9/2006
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Great idea of shadow- I like them both! All so full of action is what I like.
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Shirley D. Cross-Taylor
{K:174040} 8/9/2006
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This is also nice, but I like the original best, Doyle.:)
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/9/2006
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No problem Klaas . . . I am inclined to agree and it's just this sort of feedback I was looking for. Suggestions were made and tried and we all get to live and learn. No harm, no foul . . . and good experience. Sometimes something will sound good in theory but the application doesn't pay off.
Thanks for looking and commenting my friend!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/9/2006
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I see that (ratings) . . . Phil's working and it's showing!
:)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/9/2006
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LoL!
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/9/2006
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Thanks Laura . . . I'm inclined to agree.
:)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Klaas Baas
{K:15111} 8/9/2006
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I like it Doyle, but I think the first one is a stronger one. Why..... I don't know, just like your first one more, as I said before.. I liked it asit was before. Not that this is a bad one, but......
Take care,
Klaas
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Robin W
{K:16308} 8/9/2006
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Just noticed the ratings are working again....
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Robin W
{K:16308} 8/9/2006
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IMHO, DOF, POV, POF, OMG, and my favorite...ROTFLMAO, substitute a "B" in place of the "A" for the G-rated version...hehehe.
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Laura Spell
{K:24080} 8/9/2006
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I like it! The shadow adds a lot of depth to the image. Overall, however it seems a tad too bright, at least for my tastes.
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/9/2006
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Thanks for looking and commenting Stalin! I appreciate it!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/9/2006
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Thanks Pablo!!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Stalin Ramesh Photographer
{K:-1648} 8/9/2006
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Thanx for a New Idea. Very Interesting WOrk.
Stalin
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Pablo Dylan
{K:63918} 8/9/2006
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Great composition!!
I lIke it.
Pablo
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/9/2006
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Well thanks so much Yoshiyuki! I appreciate that!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/9/2006
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Thanks Robin . . . exactly the feedback I was looking for.
.....I particulary enjoyed you explaining humble to me! LoL! The wife will have a field day with that! I was reminded of the Mac Davis song, "It's Hard to be Humble (When You're Perfect in Every Way!)"-- Don't be shocked but I know the whole song word for word! Hehehee
.....Now, I KNOW what you meant . . . I've had people ask me what IMO, POV and DOF meant . . . your pre-emptive answer was not taken the wrong way . . . just completely ENJOYED! LoL!!
:)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Yoshiyuki Tanaka
{K:13580} 8/9/2006
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Stunning shot!!! There is so much motion in that bull that I feel it is going to really bust out of the screen!
YT
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Robin W
{K:16308} 8/9/2006
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IMHO...love the addition of the shadow though it could use a few minor touch-ups where the corner and edge are peeking through. I'll stick with original in terms of contrast, not sure why...I just like it that way. Pretty impressive post work Doyle...I have no clue when it comes to stuff like this!
Take care...Robin
ps...IMHO, H=humble
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/9/2006
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Thanks Michele . . . love getting the feedback and (FYI) I suspect you may be right!
:)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Michele Carlsen
{K:146013} 8/9/2006
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I do like them both Doyle... but I have to stick to my guns and vote for the original 'Pop Out' version ... The style is an excellent choice for this shot , whichever way you like it best.
Michele~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/9/2006
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Thanks Hind!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 8/9/2006
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Thanks Rashed!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Hind S. Al-Hashimy
{K:2851} 8/9/2006
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That's creative and very affective!!.. all the best  )
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Rashed Abdulla
{K:163889} 8/9/2006
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Very impresive piece of photographic art and very pleasant image to view, all of the best my friend.
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