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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 12/5/2008
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Hi Heike!
Hmm, I must say this first! And please don't take it wrong, OK? It is such a sound! It has something quite "airy" to think of the sounding of "Hi Heike" as it might be spoken, ey? ;-) Very "high" all of that! ;-) And to our englisch speaking friends, it is not "Heikii", it is "Heike" - say "e" at the end of the name!!! ;-)
OK, forget about my strange sound addiction and back to the image. Your comment is very interesting to me. What makes you think of it as an "oil painting"-like image? The very details of it are rather anti-oil-painting since the degree of detail is extremely higher than any of the oil-paintings could technically preserve and preserve. The viscous oil colors are not capable of preserving this kind of fine details. So, is it perhaps the general mood? This would be very striking since it would also state that there are more things than detail analysis that contribute to the overall impression of some photo as an oil-painting. And imagine now what consequences this could have for photography. It could mean that we are able to shoot "oil-paintings" not by caring about details but rather by caring about the overall "sense" of the image. So I wait for your input.
About the "alignment" of the swan's neck... I think that Valerij already did that. (And he did very well.) Well, not exactly your idea, but still in the same direction, isn't it? See his attachment and comments about that. Anyway, I wish I could somehow convince those swans to get the right pose when I am shooting. I know they will never do, but still I keep on trying to get them when they least expect it.
Thanks a lot!
Nick
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{K:169} 10/29/2008
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I always said i like "Oil painting"-like photos. this one is very charming. the white swan is a nice detail in the composition... still, I wish I could "align" his neck to make it vertically straight :)
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 9/1/2008
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Thanks a bunch, Valerij!
Technically much better than my PS-mess-up, but also the "theoretical" part is much better this way. I think the swans could also be moved more to the left or to the right for giving the implicit leading line (from them to the church) some angle relative to the direction of vision. BTW, how did you decided where to put the two swans? Anything particular?
Many many thanks indeed!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 9/1/2008
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You are very welcome, Kiarang!
Nick
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Valerij Reznikov
{K:3367} 8/31/2008
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Hi Nick
I've MADE an attachment. Here it is.
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Kiarang Alaei
{K:49415} 8/31/2008
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Thank you for your very nice reply dear Nick!
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 8/31/2008
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Thanks once again, Dave!
As Valerij said for the overall balance the darkness is one of the "poles", but I still think too that it turns the swan somehow less visible than otherwise.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 8/31/2008
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Many many thanks, Yazeed!
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 8/31/2008
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Oops! Where's the attachment? Here's the attachment as a very imperfect visualisation of your idea!
Nick
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 Tried to achieve Valerij's idea with a very raw PS manipulation |
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 8/31/2008
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Hi Valerij, and many many thanks for the detailed comment and the ideas!
From the point of view of overall balance I am with you. I only have the impression that the strong darkness on the bottom interacts too much with the visibility of some of the swan's parts that themselves don't carry so strong highlights.
I find your idea very good after I tried (very imperfectly) to copy and paste two swans from another image just for getting a glimpse of how it could look. In this case doing that in OPS would preserve the look and feel of the original without converting it to some "fantastic" world and so I tend to second you here too. But I am not as good in PS for doing that in an adequate way, as we see on the attachment. I'd rather give it another try some day, when there are two swans there. I think that some kind of fight between them would be most interesting, though, like for example when one hunts the other almost flying some centimeters over the surface of the water.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 8/31/2008
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Thank you very much for the nice comment, Claudia!
Indeed the swan did me the favor to remain at a good position.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 8/31/2008
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Thank you very much, Aykaan!
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 8/31/2008
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Thanks a lot Kiarang! It is also one of those I like most in this series.
The series is not new. It comes from some years ago, when I was trying to get a bit more exercize in lighting balance.
Nice to hear from you again! Hope you're doing fine too!
Nick
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Dave Stacey
{K:150877} 8/30/2008
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Nicely composed skyline shot, Nick, and the swan adds interest, too. It is a little dark at the bottom though. Dave.
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M jalili
{K:69009} 8/29/2008
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I like it so much . Regards ...........
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Valerij Reznikov
{K:3367} 8/29/2008
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Hi Nick.
No, I dont think the bottom is too dark, on the contrary, it balances the image. I get that's one of the main rules of photography.
Looking at that photo I visualize the perfect composition with swans - a couple of white birds in some romantic pose in the dark bottom and the city above. Two towers and two swans. I think you have the right to place the swans by PS means in this photo (IMHO)
Valerij
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Claudia Perilli
{K:31090} 8/29/2008
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Oh... very nice capture. Nice landscape, the position of the swan in great.
Claudia
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Aykaan K
{K:13601} 8/29/2008
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bonjour Nick, la série continue avec d'excellentes images... très beau..
salutations amicales..
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Kiarang Alaei
{K:49415} 8/29/2008
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This one has more impresive effect between your new series and posts; because of the dynamic perspective and strange depth and mood. hope you are fine my friend.i see you have had many new experiments. long time i was abscent here.
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