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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 6/18/2009
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Hi Judson,
We just watched the movie a couple of days ago. This is almost exactly the same car. A little better condition. :)
Wonderful movie!
Andre
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Judson Borges
{K:6727} 6/17/2009
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A penalty after having seen the movie and how beautiful this car was see again in this state, but the picture is good.
Thanks for sharing, Judson.
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 4/23/2009
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Indeed, Andre, the gear behind all that is really much more than "one ti one depiction". Of course it has to interest me when I see that maths are also in the domains of photography. ;-)
Still the interpretation is a case for the own perception... but how much mathematics is in that perception which after all was developed by the very same principles of mathematics in nature? It could be that we perceive as we perceive just because of the same "language" that we also use when we prove theorems. ;-)
Cheers!
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 4/19/2009
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Thanks for all the information Nick.
It is interesting to learn how all these different processes work to duplicate a moment in time. Then , we all interpret that moment based on our own particular perception.
Andre
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 4/4/2009
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Zigactly, Andre! The things that are stamped so easily and quickly as "purely technical and thus not interesting for the 'artist'" are of a great help for the consious mind that takes a more down to earth position regarding photography and anything else. Exactly as you did by noticing the relationship between what the CAM software produces and what the what the camera produces. I consider this to be the real cognitive process of the hinestly interested mind, of which we could all learn much if we would only lay our "artistic self-representation" aside. It is small but invaluable steps with which we enrich our views and skills. In other words work that is perceived as something joyfull to do, rather than a heavy load that must be avoided.
The minimization of the stair-stepping effects of course has to walk hand in hand with further miniaturization of the pixels of any digital reproducion device. The end of this development might be some kind of special plasma screen or similar, but we are lightyears behind that. There are some extremely good screens with resolutions beyond any heaven and hell, but they are also extremely expensive. I once saw one rather "ordinary" image on one of those screens and it blasted me away. It was nothing more than the image of an icecream but I thought immediately that I could smell it. On the other hand, having to deal with such problems of normal screens and gear is perhaps a good exercise for sharpening the eye and the awareness for goos photography. The used tricks for avoiding such stair-stepping effects are very clever. The whole technology of the PDF as it started was to replace the black-white edge with appropriate transitions of greys in such a way that the appearance of a good sharp edge of a letter was both "smooth" and also sustainable at almost all degrees of magnification. Adobe did that by introducing fonts that are described by mathematical curves rather than regions of white or black pixels. So they allowed also other grey levels than completely black or completely white near the contours of the letter, which I find an ingenious solution, since it didn't need more pixels. It was like getting the best out of the limitations, which in some ways has to do with any kind of photographic gear we use.
Cheers!
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 4/1/2009
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Hi Nick,
We run into a similar problem with CAM software at work. We call it "stair-stepping" when a curved line is really made up of thousands of steps. Obviously, the finer the steps, the smoother the surface. But, they are still there.
Andre
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 3/31/2009
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Exactly again, Andre! It has to do with the placement of pixels in horizontal and vertical rows. On horizontal and vertical lines, after cropping/resizing, you only need to continue them in an interpolating manner. In diagonal lines however, there will be problems since actually such lines are always made of a series of small "zig zag steps". So there has to be also some good dithering technique that "smooths" up those tiny steps, and so when they get resized the already existing dithering and tiny steps get resized too. Once they are in the range of visibility the image suffers a lot, especially in cases of odd size relations. A resizing of, say, 7 to 3 will be much worse than 2 to 1.
Cheers!
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 3/26/2009
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Hi Nick,
I try to be conscious of the infamous zig zag look that happens on resizing sometimes. Another reason to be careful with cropping. I think sometimes if we crop to an odd size, we are asking for trouble with the zig zags. As you say, it seems to happen a lot on diagonal straight lines if we are not careful.
Andre
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 3/24/2009
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I see this one as a bit more dramatic than the other one, Andre. It conveys to me more motion and also some elements of an accident, or say, the moment that the poor thing was throen away and was left to its own fate of decay. The details and the good lighting are again present all over the image. The consistency of coloring seems to go hand in hand with the many areas of damage of the car here. What I find most striking is the sudden change of sharpness and lighting at the contour line of the car against the background. It is sharp and well defined and still it doesn't have any superfluous zigsaw look.
Cheers!
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 3/24/2009
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Thanks Andrzej.
I suppose so. I bet when this one was first left here, it was still in a restorable condition. It's too late now.
Andre
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Andrzej Pradzynski
{K:22541} 3/24/2009
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Old guy but still has guts to shows the style and a class. Cheers, NJ
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 3/19/2009
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Hi Marcus,
Are you Starsky? Or Hutch?
Yeah, they are fascinating. What gets me is that even all this paint, chrome and metal does over time, eventually blend in. We will give this one another few decades before it is completely gone.
Andre
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 3/19/2009
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Thanks for your continuing support Ray.
Andre
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Marcus Armani
{K:36599} 3/18/2009
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Nice capture andre, It has always fascinated me these cars in the woods, something about the metal against the trees and woods really stands out, not to mention Im a bit jealous as i had one of these, but not quite in this good of condition :)
excellent..
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stingRay pt.4 .
{K:250401} 3/18/2009
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Another perspective to this once lovely car that still possesses a degree of final beauty if only in what is fast becoming a favourite colour of mine; mustard yellow. Great play between shadow and light my dear friend, well done. My very best wishes to you as always my dear Andre.....Ray
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 3/18/2009
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Thanks Mojgan,
They are one of my favourite subjects and always have been.
Andre
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 3/18/2009
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Thanks Stan,
Yeah, well used. I knew about this one being there for quite some time now. Then when the new Clint Eastwood movie "Gran Torino" came out, I thought I would go back and take a few shots. I believe this is also the type of car used in the tv series "Starsky and Hutch". The engine is in the car too. I think it's a 351 big block, but not sure.
Andre
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 3/18/2009
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Thanks Dan,
Better days, for sure. The car was on a steep angle. I had a lot of fun setting up the tripod for this set of pictures. One leg was about two feet shorter than the others.
Andre
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 3/18/2009
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Thanks Marcio,
You're probably right about the shadows. The light was difficult in that area.
Andre
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Mojgan Bahasadri
{K:16243} 3/17/2009
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Wonderfull find Andre! I love finding these old
forgotton cars! and I love the way that you looking around ;)
best to you my dear friend,
Mojgan
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 3/17/2009
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Would this be considered a used car? Looks like a sorry way to be dumped. Nice tones and POV.
Be well, Stan
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Dan Wilson
{K:21104} 3/17/2009
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This old girl has seen better days. I really like the shooting angle and composition
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Marcio Janousek
{K:32538} 3/17/2009
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Also a nice angle to see
Maybe a little more detail in shadows mainly in the tire would be perfect !!
Great picture !!
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