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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/21/2009
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That´s nice then, Roby.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/21/2009
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Sigh!
Well... great creative thanks too, Atalay!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/21/2009
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Thanks a lot, Aziz!
Nonetheless it is not one that deserved any kind of admiration at all, and even less an award. It is a useless image, the way it was mede.
Cheers!
Nick
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Roberto Arcari Farinetti
{K:209486} 11/19/2009
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well everything is clear..
cheers
roby
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/18/2009
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This time... it has bee just the initials *U*F* of this place that made the transmission of a simple message so horribly hard...
I would really suggest to the guys of this forum to remember that we live in the year 2009 and that this it has been "mathematically* proven that no kind of mediocre "filtering out bad words" will ever do anything good to any site. Even to this one.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/18/2009
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Portion 2 was transmitted OK too.
OK, we try portion 3:
P.S.: No doubt about people here that *do* create. Now, creative people are always uncomfortable with such an easy "glorification"... and so, the obvious result is that many too many of those good guys will leave the place sooner or later. Now, imagine this forum without them... We could as well close the forum down, I guess....
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/18/2009
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Portion 1 transmitted OK.
Now, Portion 2:
I would be glad if this "award" was thought as the originator of some confrontation, but from what I see until now... What confrontation? We are all naturally born artists, aren't we? ;-)
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/18/2009
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Portion 1:
Well, I would rather bet on some kind of random or perhaps "almost random" selection for such awards like this one here. It must have been some bot...
But in case it was for introducing some confrontation too, in the middle of all that kind of artificially constructed "brothership", I should admit its usefulness. Just if this was the case, of course. ;-)
As you say, it has been turned - artificially turned - so easy to get such high "ratings" from legions of the usual "friends".
And the final question can only be: What do we really want here, in UF? Do we want to convert this place to yet another irrelevant "forum" that nobody cites, just because everybody is automatically a "master" through the "comments" of the usual "friends"? Do we want to keep on tapping on each other´s shoulders or do we want to turn it into some place in the web, the critiques of which become more and more a sincere, perhaps a hard but then also a *trusted* a place of dedication to the whole thing that we call "photography"?
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/18/2009
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Hi again, Andre!
For some reason this website won't allow me to send you my reply, and I assume that this is because of some "abd word". So I try it in portions...
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/18/2009
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Elementary understaning of logical argumentation is pre-assumed from anybody dealing with any kind of artistic work, Roby. Artistic work without understanding of the underlying logic is... well, somthing like a motherless child. I didn't reply with a "speech" at all. A "speech" I do when I analyze such subjects in academic conferences. Here I only reply.
And neither I talked about any "jokes" from you at me, nor about "bludering". I only talked about a bit more logical consequence when we discuss about such matters, didn't I? So, let's consider this one without "positive" and without "negative" preoccupations. I tell you sincerely that I just smudged around with PS. No imaginations, no vision, no whatsoever. After three or four clicks this image was produced. And I post it as a good example of how cheap so many of the "awards" are when it comes to "abstracts". BTW, do you know what an abstract should be, or should I start explaining again?
Anyway, I thank you for the good words, but... Roby, this one is the product of unconscious "doing". I could have also been sitting in some bar and drinking whisky for my own self. It is a failure that just happens to "look good", that's all!
And BTW, your english is surely more than good for comprehending the content of this whole continuing debate here.
Cheers!
Nick
P.S.: Don't ever assume any kind of emotional component from me when I present arguments! I don't deal with "comments fiving troubles" and similar things, When I argue, I am only logical.
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atalay karacaorenli
{K:1557} 11/18/2009
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Great creativity...
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aZiZ aBc
{K:28345} 11/17/2009
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Hi Nick !
Happy to see a very interesting abstract of your work on the front page !
The origin is also a nice one.
Congratulations !
Cheers
Aziz
PS: I had no access to login, upload and comment for long time! My photos were being uploaded indirectly by a friend !
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/17/2009
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Hi Nick,
I don't really know if they (awards selection people) are intending it to be a joke giving you the DOD for this shot or not.
Why not give DOD's for raising controversy and discussion?
On the other hand, sometimes I think the whole Awards thing is completely random, and people have nothing to do with the awards at all. Just some Usefilm Bot.
In any case, I do understand the point you are trying to get across to people.
It is a little sad and pathetic to see images with 6.9 and 7.0 ratings given by legions of "friends" to some photos that someone has spent five minutes altering beyond all recognition with software program filters and enhancement bars.
There are a lot of people here who do wonderful work in photo graphics programs. But, they are people who have some vision and goals about the images that they are creating.
Andre
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Roberto Arcari Farinetti
{K:209486} 11/17/2009
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Nick..
Sincerely I have serious problems to understand this so large speech!
I know the English in very elementary manner.. and therefore to understand or to make understand is really difficult.
I hope to misunderstand but I would like to understand if this comment has you given trouble.
You think that I joke with you.. that i make fun of you?
sorry but you blunder. I always I respected all!
roby
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/16/2009
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I presented you logical arguments and you are telling me inconsistent "views", Roberto... Sorry, I won't discuss this way. First the presented arguments have to be logically negated. And if they can't be negated, there is no reason for further talking in the wind. Then the arguments are right and we have to accept them.
So, read again my previous message and disprove my arguments first - especially this one: " you take letters at random, put them in some random sequence, and say that the result is a "creative poem"". This is exactly how this image was made! I neither thought about it nor I had any particular interest to make it.I was just bored and I was mixing up filters. It is the result of... nothing.
So, as long as you don't consider even the fundamental criteria of logic, you can say whatever you like to me. I couldn't care less.
Bye!
Nick
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Roberto Arcari Farinetti
{K:209486} 11/15/2009
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dear Nick ..
personally I find this photo "normal", or better I would not have created. I certainly can not know how the staff thinks and use the method for allocation of awards!
maybe your is a game and their was a joke ... I consider best photos of the city or unusula pov..
sure need to think before taking!
all the best
roby
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/15/2009
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It can't be "creative" Roby, since there has been absolutely no wish, no intention to "create" something while doing it. Let's not distort the definition of meanings at free wheel, or else even marking the numbers at random on some lotto hame could be thought exactly as "creative". Or, let's say, you take letters at random, put them in some random sequence, and say that the result is a "creative poem". A bit more consequence and seriousness of thinking, if I may ask for that! A bit more thinking about what creativity is before we start singing the same senseless fanfares, like most lightweight brains keep on doing. "Creativity at random" is a contradiction by itself.
Cheers!
Nick
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Roberto Arcari Farinetti
{K:209486} 11/14/2009
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woooooow horrible or not, nick, is creative .. maybe they have found something special in creativity and in effect!
i wait your news ..
cheers
roby
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/14/2009
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And beautiful, very nice colored, and detailed thanks, Hussam.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/14/2009
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Thanks a lot for the hymnes, Gustavo, but there is not even the least need for them - as far as I am cincerned with them at least. There has been absolutely *no* "creative moments", *no* inspiration, *no* ideas, *no* vision for this one. This was the result of faking around for 10 inutes with no conscious mind at all. This "award" is either the proof of the ridiculousness of the guys at UF, or it is a koke they wnated to play with me for my continuing protest against cheap arts. I will assume the latter and close this chapter.
BTW, spare me your hymnes about your "beliefs on creativity". if this here is "creativity" then I can flood you with more than a dozen of such images in some few minutes. Give me your worst images and I turn them to "creative work" in no time. And if you still name it "creativity" then... well, perhaps it is only a matter of the quality standards. I don't set them upon such cheap betrayals made by PS in a few minutes. Thinks of that when you "create". For my part, I would just like to shoot some reasonably done image, and this here is a complete catastrophe. If this award is not a joke from the sides of the UF... then it is a useless award. Exactly as useless as telling Sex Pistols to participate to the celebrations of the typical zero-minded hall-of-fame-party of the neo-US-stupidity nowadays.
Sorry, sometimes the truth has to be spoken out clearly.
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/14/2009
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Andrfe, I must tell you now... I think the guys made a joke on me. I think they saw my last few ironic statements about "artistic work", and so they decided to make a joke. ;-)
Anyway, this one is and remains... a failure. And the "award" is to me only a joke. If this award is meant seriously, the... I am in kindergarten.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/14/2009
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What can I say.... very nice abstract thanks, Nanda!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/14/2009
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Roby, this award must be a joke from the sides of UF. They try to joke with me, that's all. The image is and remains horrible with or without an award.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/14/2009
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This way a useless award, Yazeed. Such images are only waste and as such I posted it. It is useless but I see now that UF tends to get the quality of a kindergarten.
Thanks a lot anyway.
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/14/2009
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There is no such thing like "accidental art", Kallol! The image is only an example of ridiculousness of what 90% of the "artists" in UF do. It is a cheap excuse, generated in some 10 minutes of stupid "playing around" with no conscient mind. I could also sit and drink whisky and tell you that it is "arts".
Thanks a lot anyway.
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/14/2009
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Hmm... and I posted it as another very very easily understandable example for the "artistic" work that is none, Shirley...
Anyway, thanks a lot.
Nick
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Hussam AL_ Khoder
{K:79545} 11/13/2009
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Beautiful view... very nice colors, tones and details...
Congratulations... For DOD
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Gustavo Scheverin
{K:164501} 11/13/2009
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Yo creo, mi querido amigo, que se pueden hacer imágenes con cámara y sin cámara o de ambas formas.
Pienso que hay imágenes que nunca podrías obtenerlas con una cámara solamente.
Pienso que el proceso creativo no debe limitarse al momento del disparo sino que pude continuar después.
Creo además que las posibilidades del post proceso son enormes. También, que no es necesario imaginarse el resultado antes y que el feedback durante el proceso creativo te puede ir llevando a nuevas ideas que no te habías imaginado previamente.
Creo con total convicción, que una o varias fotos fallidas pueden ser el material con el que construyas una imagen lograda.
Creo sí, que una buena imagen siempre es el resultado de mucho trabajo y aplicar el buen gusto y sentido estético, pero creo que la suerte también ayuda muchas veces, y mucho.
Creo que una cosa es lo que uno cree de la propia imagen y otra muy distinta es lo que lo demás ven en ella. Y esta foto "fallida" que resulta premiada es un buen ejemplo de esto que te digo...;-)
En fin, estas son mis creencia.
Un abrazo!
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Gustavo Scheverin
{K:164501} 11/13/2009
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ja....ja...., una demostración por el absurdo!, presentas una foto deliberadamente mala y te la premian!, será una broma del sitio?, te habrán premiado con ironía el about antes que la foto?, o premia un sistema automático incapaz de distinguir el valor de una imagen?...quién sabe....
De todas formas esta reciente premiación de UseFilm es para analizarla un poco mejor, porque veo que de golpe todos, o muchos, hemos recibido premios, y algunos realmente curiosos, como este.
En fin, te dejo un abrazo fraterno!
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/13/2009
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Interesting and a little ironic that you would get a DOD award for this one. :)
Oh well. Why not :)
Andre
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Nanda Baba das
{K:78053} 11/12/2009
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Very nice abstract image.
My best wishes
Nanda
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Roberto Arcari Farinetti
{K:209486} 11/11/2009
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i have seen this abstract this night but was again without dod..
congrats..
roby
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M jalili
{K:69009} 11/11/2009
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A very nice work my friend and my congratulation for the award .
Regards .............
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Kallol Majumdar
{K:27691} 11/11/2009
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Wonderful shot...very impressive...may be an accidental art, but very colourful and moving...
Congrats for the award too...
Best wishes
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Shirley D. Cross-Taylor
{K:174127} 11/11/2009
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Very cool abstract image, Nick. Congratulations!:)
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/10/2009
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And here is also my "intention" which failed. And I have to sincerely confess that it failed, instead if pretending that I had an image in mind like the one I posted when I was trying the double exposure - pretending this would be simply b*u*l*l*s*h*i*t and nothing more.
BTW, Gustavo and all the similar rest, I really think of you too. ;-)
Cheers!
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