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Judi Liosatos
{K:34047} 11/9/2004
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I like this one as it is. The eyes are very intense. I hadn't seen this image before but I am glad I finally got to see it.
Thankyou for checking out my profile image. You mentioned the expression, and that is the reason why I am unsure as to the acceptance of it by other members. Oh, that combined with the position. Oh well. I guess some will be upset by it..tough luck, I say.
Judi
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/26/2004
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Thanks alot Toni for your wonderful comment! =) Im glad you liked the photo and my look! =))
Cheers
Patrick J
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Antonia BauerleinSehnert
{K:30599} 10/26/2004
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This is a beautiful self-portrait. Both you and the photo are stunning. Your work is smashing, and when I get the chance I'll spend more time here. Thanks for your comments on my work! Toni
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/25/2004
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My intention was to make a "Futuristic" portrait.. but many thought it looked like a old painting instead.. hehe. Its hard to do selfportraits.. skipped most of them due to that i didnt like my different expressions. Would be interesting to hear what you idea is.. =)
Cheers and take care my friend!
Patrick J
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PK- Photos
{K:13099} 10/25/2004
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I like your eyes , maybe the next time without this pullover, I think its better to see a little more of the neck, so it looks too strong....not relaxed.
I would take a portrait of you in a totally different way like this one, thats interesting how you took a self-portrait
Ciao, Pia
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/21/2004
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Thanks alot Carmem.. =) im honored!! That comment warmed my heart for sure!! =))
Ciao!
Patrick J
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Carmem A. Busko
{K:48785} 10/21/2004
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About perfection... there?s nothing to say...
Spechless portrait... added to favorites, Patrick!!
C.
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/20/2004
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Thanks alot Patty for that wonderful comment! Im very happy for your words.. =) Thanks!!
Cheers
Patrick J
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Patty Morena
{K:16598} 10/20/2004
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Excellent self portrait ,Patrick.
Great light and expression
(You are very handsome !!).
Nice to meet you!
Patrizia
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/19/2004
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Thanks alot Orazio my friend.. =) Im glad for your comment!
Take care!
Ciao
Patrick J
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Orazio Minnella
{K:49417} 10/19/2004
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Nice portrait.Good sharpness and great tones.
Orazio
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/18/2004
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Thanks alot Lucy for your comment and thoughts about this matter! =) I think i will try to make it look like an old painting.. will see if i manage to do something good!
Im glad you liked this one my friend! Take care!!
Cheers
Patrick J
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Lucy Bernadette
{K:5806} 10/18/2004
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it's interesting reading the comments on this photograph in light of my reaction to the other photograph, ie. manipulating the skin tones for that photo that i commented on. a couple of things:
1. someone mentioned something about this looking something like a renaissance portrait. yes, in the dutch tradition. i would love to see if you could really PS this and create a 'rembrandt' feel. that would be very interesting. you already have a good, tentative expression on your face.
2. maybe i've seen so much PS manipulation and maybe because i use it for every photograph, i'm a bit biased in that i think yes, it should be used. there is, of course, a fine line of how much so that the essential character - as someone else described - is not lost because the face is the window to the inner personality. but...
3. as a photographer, you are a manipulator. all photographers are. so are painters. we are, by the very nature inherent in interpretation that comes along with 'doing art', all manipulators. but this is a good thing, a necessary thing. that's why we all have different takes on similar subjects.
and i could go on and on and on. like the debate and ideas this has stirred up. you're a very dedicated and enthusiastic artist patrick!
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/18/2004
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Thank you Harry for your comment and thought about this matter! =) I think it all depends on what situation the photo is being used for.. if its news/evidence etc.. then we cant change the photos ofcourse. Im glad you liked my photo!! =)
Take care
Patrick J
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Harry Jasper
{K:2913} 10/18/2004
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Hi Patric
I do not agree with you that you should not manipulate a picture. I see no reason that you shouldn?t. You don?t take a picture you make a picture. Now a days it?s much easier than in the past with the dark room, that was much more difficult. But with programs like photoshop we do exactly the same thing. What is wrong with that?
Anyhow I like this picture and it?s perfect for me. I don?t care if it?s manipulated or not, it makes no difference for me.
Best regards,
Harry. Jasper
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/18/2004
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Hi Thilo! =) I was using flash on both photos.. same direction.. camera and flash on tripods. I think i raised the light with photoshop abit on the other one.. im not sure! Thanks for your thought and comment! =)
Cheers
Patrick J
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Thilo Bayer
{K:50358} 10/18/2004
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Hi Patrick,
nice to meet you ;-)
I would probably work on the somehow "underexposed" face. Easy to say, if you don't use a flash here =) But if you compare this one with the one before, you will see what I mean.
good one-
Take care,
Thilo
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/18/2004
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Thanks alot Zeev my friend for your comment and thought about this matter! Its true that its not easy to answer on... but it sure is interesting. I know for a fact that if (when) i buy an analog camera as well.. i will for sure think extra before pressing the shutter as i wont do so much extra work in ps probebly.
Take care! =)
Patrick J
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Zeev Scharf
{K:25603} 10/18/2004
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Beautiful potrait Patrick in every aspect.
the polemic you arised here,is very hard to give one answer,In my opinion an image can be manipulated to suit the photographer taste something that was almost impossibe to achieve before the digital era
Many thanks for commenting on "A new beginning to come"
Best regards my friend
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/18/2004
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Thanks alot Biliana.. =) Im glad you like the photo.. =))
Ciao!
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/18/2004
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Thanks alot Arwa for your fine comment and thought.. =) Take care!
Cheers
Patrick J
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B:)liana
{K:30945} 10/18/2004
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I agree to embelish ourselves ha ha .. Lovely self portrait dear Patrick. great lighting! You are very handsome and very serious ;-)
Kisses, Biliana
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arwa abdullah
{K:34415} 10/18/2004
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theres no such thing as lying in photography, each person is picturing the world the way they see it, and humans by nature like to hide their mistakes or fault and theres nothing wrong with that
Oh by the way the image is so damn good!!!!! 
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Thanks alot Paola! =) Im glad you like my work!! Take care!!
Ciao!
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Thanks Jeanette for your thoughts and ideas about this matter! Also thanks for your comment about the picture.. =) I didnt use natural light here.. it was taken at night.. the blackness behind me is the night outside.. i was standing in a open window. I used a flash.. pointed backwards.
Studiolights and screens seems to be fun.. ill look into those for sure.. =)
Take care my friend!
Patrick J
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Witold Spiess
{K:2874} 10/17/2004
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vary 'flamish' in tone & lighting.I like the crop very much, regards.w
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B B
{K:30983} 10/17/2004
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Hi Patrick,
nice to meet you!
I'm going around of your portfolio and I think that your works are interesting. The shot suggested by you in your presentation is very suggestive. My preferred.
Bye.
Paola LL
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Saeed Al Shamsi
{K:47735} 10/17/2004
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I did say it to some one before the manipulating is part of the art work of photography, that?s why it is a major part of Uni study nowadays, before they used to retouch the photo in the dark room, now ,no more dark you have it in your computer and it is there for use, is not a computer game, so what you?ve done is the right way and ,for those whom in work with the editing tool it is easy to notice if the photo been elaborated, splendid job, if I can rate it you will have +7 and that for light and retouch :) Saeed
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 10/17/2004
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Hi Patrick, I wouldn't necessarily say "wrong" Such things happen all the time. It solely depends on what you want to achieve with a photo. That element eludes me in this shot, as I think your pose is a bit forced, and not quite as expressive as the previous ones. What would help in this shot is if you'd pulled down the zipper a bit, loosening up the comp. and pose a bit. Further more, angling your head a bit inward / foreward might create a more intense and confronting image. On the other hand, the shot is "clean", and that would justify the manipulation, I think. Interesting issue....
Cheers,
Hugo
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Jeanette Hägglund
{K:59855} 10/17/2004
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You are good in lightning without any lightning.... I mean you use the day light here I suppose. But "studio light" is quiet fun to work with. I bouaght for several years ago some, and have used it very much. Lately less, have to say, but now after moving I have more space for it and are longing after setting light again. So buy and try and have fun.
To take away some marks on the skin is nothing. What is the truth? We creat our own reality through our lenses anyway. The image of you ís not you, it is a image of you done by you. Think about all images in the world, how much is truth? All ads, posters, images in newspapers and so on and so on - there?s not so much truth. Everybody knows about it - or I hope they do. Before PS a the same treatment ws done in the darkroom. What?s NOT done in the image we creat in our head - our imagination.
Hope you getting me right here. Don??t be too hard to your self.
Jeanette
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Jeanette Hägglund
{K:59855} 10/17/2004
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I agree with you Karen. A image is subjective, dosen?t show the reality and have never done so. Even the attempt to reproduce it objective is an image - an interpretation.
Jeanette
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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You are right there! =) It all depends what the photo will be used for! Thanks again for your analyze and thought about this matter!
Take care and keep on doing those great shots!! =)
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Im really happy for your comment Bea!! =) Warmed my heart for sure! Thanks!!
Cheers
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Thanks alot John for your comment and thought about this matter! =) Photoshop can be useful.. thats true.. but one wonders where the picture should be called a photo or a painting.. =)
Cheers
Patrick J
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Jeff Fiore
{K:11277} 10/17/2004
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Patrick,
I should add that the statements were about modeling. If this just a portrait, then you can do pretty much what you want, softening wrinkles, softening skin, removal of anything the paying subject finds objectionable. With model photography, you should shoot with more accuracy, with portraits, you have free reign to improve the subjects look.
Fine art photography, you can do whatever you want. In most of my fine art photography with Melissa, I even removed her tatoos because the art is creating a fantasy and I'll manipulate to death to create that fantasy.
Jeff
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Bea Friedli
{K:10189} 10/17/2004
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excellent portrait ! just stunning..and handsome too !
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John Loreaux
{K:86210} 10/17/2004
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Nice portrait Patrick!
Great light and expression!
I say if there is something that gets in the way of the overall composition and is bassically stealing the show , than remove it!If not it's a keeper!
Well done!
My best.................JOHN
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Thanks for your thoughts and inputs about this matter! =) I had no idea that the agancies required a photo of their head with no makeup.. and no ps manipulation ofcourse! =) Thanks for your input my friend! =)
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Thanks alot Gino for your fine comment! =) Im not a heartbraker though.. dont even have a girlfriend.. *sniff*!! You gave me an idea for a title for my next photo though.. =)) Thanks alot my friend! Take care!
Ciao
Patrick J
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Jeff Fiore
{K:11277} 10/17/2004
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Removal in photoshop?
My rule of thumb is that if it is a natural part of you, it stays - birthmarks ,etc..
If it is not, remove it - blemishes, etc...
Not natural but permanent features such as scars - depends. If it is a model shoot, I usually remove it - otherwise, I don't.
While it is not a natural part of the person, it is a pemanent featue. On all of Melissa's photos, I removed her appendectomy scar - except one recent photo, I just minimized it a bit. On Alex's photos, she has a bad scar on her forearm, I remove it.
That being said, if it is a model shoot and she has a scar on her face, it stays because the photo would be misrepresenting what the model looks like if removed. If she gets hired for a shoot due to my manipulated image only to find that she has a scar on her face, she looks bad but most important, I look bad - my reputation as a photographer suffers.
Hiding scars with makeup is fine as long as the photo is accurate. Most model agancies (at least here in NYC) require a head shot of the model sans makeup so they can see what the model really looks like.
Hope this helps.
Jeff
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Gino Quattrocchi
{K:39580} 10/17/2004
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beautiful job Patrik
formal and perfect in the most classical style
but you are a beautiful man
do you know him/it that so you will have the admiration of the girls??? :)
are you a heartbreaker???
But the technique is perfect good!!!
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Thanks alot for your fine comment Marian and for your thoughts about manipulations! =)
Cheers
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Thanks alot Rebecca for your fine comment. I didnt think about makeup.. i guess with small adjustments in photoshop.. it could count as makeup! =) Take care!
Cheers
Patrick J
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Marian Man
{K:80636} 10/17/2004
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a very nice portrait.... the dark background adding a lot to it... as for manipulation I suppose if it does not go over the limits... is permitted :)...regards Marian
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Rebecca Raybon
{K:26654} 10/17/2004
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I think what you've accomplished here is a beautiful and classic portrait. PS is ok for those masters who can do anything with it. I manage to enhance a few colors and crop, add a frame or two. I think I could clone out an imperfection or a birthmark. That's no more than we women applying make up to cover it, is it? It is to reveal the beauty. And you certainly did that here. Handsome portrait !!
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Thanks alot my friend Pedro! =) Yes.. thats annoying when they write no ps when the photo looks so changed that it would be even weird if an camera did that odd shot! :)
Take care and keep up your good work!!
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Hahahaha.. *lays on the floor and laughs* This is so funny my friend!! =) Dont tell anyone that this is infact the unmodified original!! hehe
Take care and keep up the "ps" work..;)
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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I think you are right Omar! =) Im glad you liked my photo.. thanks and take care!!
Cheers
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Yep.. lite hår fick allt falla bort! Kul att du gillar fotot. Funderar starkt på att köpa lite studio utrustning.. lite lampor och skärmar etc. Så man kan leka ordentligt med ljuset!! Går ju att få till mycket bättre fortfarande.. =)))
Ha det bra!
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Im glad you liked it Maria.. =) Thanks for your comment and thought about editing!! =))
Cheers
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Thanks alot Michele my friend.. =) Keep up your wonderful shots!!
Ciao
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Hello my friend Massimo! =) Im very happy you commented! The jacket im using is very modern.. looks almost futuristic infact! =) You are right that it could look much "older" if i removed it.. nice idea infact.. =)
I skipped the frame due to what we talked about erlier.. i think your version ended up better though.. how do you do those shadow frames?
Its not a easy topic.. but its always what you remove and what you are using the photo for.. if it was for proof in a court.. editing that photo would be dreadful.. if it was for the news.. and they removed or added something to "lie" about the news itself it would also be terrible!! Then if it was for a commercial noone cares.. as the final result is important and not if the artist had a birthmark on her chin.
I hope Roberta gets her internet going soon.. im waiting for an email from her! *sniff*
Take care my friend.. im glad you liked the photo!! =)
Ciao
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Hi Emily.. yes true... as i said to Karen... there is no easy answers to this. Thanks alot for your comment and analyze! Im really happy you liked it so much. =)
Cheers!
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Its not a easy topic with a simple answer.. true true! Guess it all depends what the photo is used for.. =) Thanks alot for your long comment and analyze! Some hair are still left.. hehe!
Take care!!!
Cheers
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/17/2004
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Im glad you liked it Di Ciuccio my friend! Take care!! =)
Ciao
Patrick J
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Pedro Libório
{K:53861} 10/16/2004
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absolutly wonderful photo Patrick,
about your questions they are quite pertinent, I just don?t think on them to much...the important to me it is if I like or not what I see, but I don`t like to read ...no Photoshop manipulation when you look to them and they really look that they have been there...
regards.
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ARMANDO ALCÁZAR
{K:42404} 10/16/2004
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Excellent self-portrait, I should say you that I am one of those photographers that never alter the pics with PhotoShop, I tell it to you honestly.
PS: I use the Photopaint, hahahaha
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Omar Rifaat
{K:10141} 10/16/2004
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I think that a person's physical face is only the outward manifestation of the inner personality, and also the face changes throughout life as a result of more or less accidental events (birthmarks, etc), but can also change profoundly based on how the person's character changes. So when it comes to retouching, I think that if the intention is to bring out the essential character of the person so that the viewer does not get distracted by the non-essential blemishes, then it can be a good thing. If the purpose is to change the face in a way that is not in keeping with the nature of the person, then i think its bad.
In this case I think your retouch has been done very well.
Great work!
Omar
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Jeanette Hägglund
{K:59855} 10/16/2004
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Nu har du defenitivt klippt dig :)
Bra val att låta bilden vara i färg. Mjukt ljus vilket är bra för hud :) Ett bra porträtt Patrick.
Jeanette
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Maria José Barres
{K:11276} 10/16/2004
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Great selfportrait!
I like the light and speacly the shine in the eyes!
I think that the important is the result, always the photos have been manipulated...
Don't worry for it!
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Michele Berti
{K:14921} 10/16/2004
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another great one Patrick. COngrats.
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Massimo Di Maggio
{K:-53658} 10/16/2004
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Nice to meet you!!! It?s a very good portrait, don?t know if the black background, the strong contrast or the particular lighting, but it reminds me a reinassance painting, the only thing out of place is that thing (don?t know the name in English) under your chin, it?s too modern, if you did not want to clone out with PS, you could put it inside ;) I like it without frame, but I think a drop shadow would add a lot, but this is a very personal taste!
About photo manipulation? you know my thought, the best thing would be to not modify the photos, but sometimes it?s a needed job (see my series with Roberta), the point is that the photographer should be as honest as you were here. I think manipulation was born the same day with photography, even EVERY photo IS a manipulation? of reality.
Best regards!!!
Max
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emily savva
{K:21113} 10/16/2004
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so... you are not hiding your thoughts anymore... :) superb quality and clarity... the total black background enhances the details... a very nice portrait...
as for image manipulation i haven't decided myself about that either... i trully admire full frame pics... i believe that these are the pics that really show the true quality and level of a photographer... on the other hand, pics can be a medium towards creation that cannot be captured simply through a lense... in this case, images are the medium to show other things, feelings, opinions etc... image manipulation needs a lot of elements to be successful... knowledge, imagination, taste and of course creativity... an artist is not obliged to show the truth but i believe it is an obligation to show its own personal truth and lead the viewers inside that personal space... smt which always involves an amount of risk... depends if one is willing to take it or not... regards... emy
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karen clarke
{K:18893} 10/16/2004
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Patrick, no matter what nobody can answer that question and have it be right for everyone. Personally, I don't mind when people play around in ps or psp or in the darkroom. What matters is the result, for me. Though if someone can get the same effect from doing it straight through the camera, then I guess yes it is more impressive. I don't think that what you have done here really qualifies for being considered a truly manipulated image, removing a few birthmarks isn't like changing your entire facial structure making it more abstract etc. You would still basically have the same image either way, but instead you would see a few more spots on the face. It's all just a question as to how someone feels about it all. I'd say that if someone didn't approve, just don't comment at all. It is not like they can really persuade you to change your mind on the matter. That being said, I think I really do like it better as b&w-not much of a surprise there I guess, lol. Glad to see there is still some length left on your hair. The expression seems like one of a mad scientist..or artist in this matter. lol. I like the lighting and how it highlights just a bit of the hair. At first I wasn't sure about the zipper showing, but then I believe without it, you would appear to just be a head floating around in the darkness. Maybe perhaps a bit more light to show a little detail around the collar area would help you more in that aspect. This is a classic pose, and I think you have pulled it off well. Okay, enough of my babbling, lol. Well done my friend~
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Di Ciuccio Maurizio
{K:57398} 10/16/2004
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il ritratto è eseguito magistralmente e le operazioni di post produzione sono da ritenersi eccezionali..il risultato conseguito è ottimo ed è un piacere conoscere la tua faccia..ciao amico mio..complimenti a presto
ritratto is executed skillfully and the operations of post production are from thinking themselves eccezionali..il turned out achieved are optimal and are a pleasure to know yours soon faccia..ciao my
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/16/2004
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?El alot de las gracias para su comentario fino y analiza! Im muy feliz que usted tuvo gusto de él tanto. ?Cuidado de la toma!
Ciao
Patrick J
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/16/2004
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Thanks alot Hassan for your comment! =)
Ciao
Patrick J
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Juan Sánchez
{K:5441} 10/16/2004
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Un retrato de gran personalidad Patrick. El estilo es clásico, con un exquisito uso de la iluminación que proporciona unos tonos suaves, delicados, sin contrastes, románticos, y que resalta la serenidad de la expresion. Magnifico autorretrato.
Saludos desde Bilbao
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{K:6081} 10/16/2004
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Vrey well composed and captured,Super.
Regards
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/16/2004
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Hi to you! =) Im glad you liked my freckles.. hehe.. i wouldnt remove those! =)
Cheers!
Patrick J
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Verena Rentrop
{K:15233} 10/16/2004
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Hi to youuuuuu!
good that you doesn't worked on the noose freckles, love them :)
Cheers,
Verena
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Patrick Jacobson
{K:29151} 10/16/2004
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True.. That is even harder to tell.. if not impossible!
Thanks for your comment and thought!
Ciao
Patrick J
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Antonio Trincone
{K:23167} 10/16/2004
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dear Patrick, it has been always hard to see if a photo is manipulated specially talking for print manipulations in chemical film technology
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