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Fabio Ficola
{K:10466} 12/3/2005
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My workflow is: Shoot in RAW (Mode II Adobe colour space in our D70) Convert in TIFF (I use Bibble) Open in PS make all the adjustement for your final work Save in Tiff for archival or printing purpose convert to RGB resize sharpen and "save as web" for us on UF :-)
Thats all. -Fabio-
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Eb Mueller
{K:24960} 12/3/2005
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Fabio, what is your workflow? I'm reasoning what would work would be to stay in Nikon NEF (RAW) but convert to sRGB mode, make all my adjustments in Nikon Editor, open in PS Elements but make sure the workspace remains sRGB and then use "save to web" to convert to properly sized JPEG. That way what I see should be close to what I get once it uploads.
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Eb Mueller
{K:24960} 12/3/2005
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Thanks Fabio! That is the answer. I assumed that "save to web" routine in PS Elements did that automatically. Likely wrong about that. Eb
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Fabio Ficola
{K:10466} 12/2/2005
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Eb remember allways to convert to SRGb profile if you want to publish on web. WEB browsers are not sensitive to colour space. So if you've shot in ADOBE color space you'll get a dull image. I've messed up so many images forgetting this...
Ps.: This one is a good photo indeed
Congrats -Fabio-
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Graham .
{K:2487} 11/30/2005
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Eb - unless you are a commercial photographer who sells images for a living and needs the quality there is ZERO point in shooting RAW images. Besides, there are so many standards, I feel that RAW will disapear and TIFF (the industry standard) will prevail. RAW images do NOT 'fix' photos that were bad to start with and have nothing to do with exposure. They do allow adjustment of white balance however (the main reason to shoot raw images). RAW images also offer histograms and require an in-depth knowledge of the intricacies of the technical aspects of photography and histograms. I will post the details of this RAW confusion I see here on my website so everyone can understand how to do this and how to save JPG files for maximum inpact and with minimum loss (yes, it *can* be done!: 0 I also cover this in my lectures. Work in PSD, save in TIFF, and post in JPG. Golden Rule :) I will show you how to save lossless JPG files...
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Eb Mueller
{K:24960} 11/30/2005
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Thanks again, Graham. I do use PS Elements, in particular to render the photos for the web. When the images upload they are reduced in saturation and contrast in comparison to the saved file. Is there any way to avoid this perceptual difference? Should I be converting my RAW files to sRGB first? Eb
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Graham .
{K:2487} 11/30/2005
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You're welcome, Eb. It does take quite a bit of experience to realize that accurate representation of Mother Nature results in flat, low contrast images. Our eyes compensate for this. With photographs, we often have to increase contrast for effect. Get yourself a copy of Photoshop Elements to use the auto contrast utility which is excellent. My last post entitled "Iris" shows the dramatic effect of accurate contrast representation. Regards, Graham
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Eb Mueller
{K:24960} 11/28/2005
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Graham, thanks for such a helpful observation. I went back to the original and found it was closer in saturation and contrast to your version. So some of the punch got lost in the translation. Secondly, I did as you suggested, cut the exposure in RAW, upped the saturation and adjusted levels. At first sight it seemed like an exaggeration, but on reflection, I agree with the effectiveness of the final product. I will have to learn to exaggerate! Eb
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Graham .
{K:2487} 11/28/2005
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I love the archetypal postcard feel to this image, Eb. There's just enough detail to keep the eye firmly focused on the distant silver barn, and you've managed to keep detail in the lea of the mountain peak. I suspect this image will hold another full stop of saturation for a more intense effect. (see attachment and compare to make the difference noticeable). See how the original appears to have a 'flatness' in comparison? Hope this helps for future shots. In scenes like these where there is such vast light ranges, it is advisable to expose for the shadowed highlights, then underexpose by up to one full stop for maximum color saturation. Try it and see. Regards, Graham.
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Paul Boocock
{K:8314} 11/20/2005
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Wonderful shot Eb, I like the composition very much as the same shapes keep repeating. The buildings are the same shape as the mountains. Superb.
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Andrzej Pradzynski
{K:22541} 11/20/2005
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Eb, I love the one and you know why, the brown roofed barn and the blue tonned mountains - it's so appealing. Marvelous. n.j
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Rashed Abdulla
{K:163889} 11/20/2005
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very beautiful ,great composition and wonderful details and colors,very best regards.
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