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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 12/15/2008
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Good point, Andre! Orderly minds... Well yes, we always try to see some kind of "regularity", "purpose", "sense", "forseeable pattern", name it whatever you want. Many times we see "sense" (according to our thinking) where there is actually none of that kind, and so your description about "negative space gives St Francis an area to look into or the percieved motion that he will be traveling into that space" makes much sense.
Curiously enough, until now I thought of him as standing on the image. Once you referred to motion... I see him hovering from the left to the right. Maybe that was already in my mind in some subconscious way, but your brought it on the surface. Which is always a reason for a huge thanks!
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 12/13/2008
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Hi Nick,
Yeah, it is generally considered to be more pleasing to the eye to view the subject off centre. In the case of your change to my image, the negative space gives St Francis an area to look into or the percieved notion that he will be traveling into that space. So, those things make sense in our orderly minds. Maybe that is the reason. I guess the opposite of that is when we intentionally position buildings, people and other elements at abstract, odd angles. In that kind of situation the image can be powerful for completely different reasons. Those kinds of images can be intentionally upsetting to our "normal" seeing minds.
Andre
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 12/9/2008
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I am glad if you find it so good, Andre! But it was not that much, really. Simply bring a bit of the left to the right and a bit of cloning.
I also think that the balance wins this way. St. Francis is more "free" now, but not completely independent of his background. It seems to me that most of the time a protagonist out of the center of the image is more than a protagonist on the center. But I don't know if this has any special reasons.
Cheers!
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 12/6/2008
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Thanks Nick,
You did a great job on the rework cloning and positioning of this one. I might have to agree with you on this one. :)
I took quite a few images of this and reworked a few of them, in different saturations, and crops.
I like the balance of your version with the large tree trunk in the position that it is in. I think the St Francis statue is still primary and the tree trunk secondary, without being distracting.
Andre
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 12/4/2008
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I t was the thumb that attracted my attention, Andre! perhaos just because it stands out so definitely between the other thumbs of your recent postings. The full size image was even better! I think that the light was on your side with this one. The good details are everywhere on the main subject but still there is some kind of diffuse (again!) softness that I think fits very well here. Good old Francis doesn't look like an authority but rather than what I think he wished to be - one of us between us all. The softer sequence of tones from lights to shadows and vice versa play a big role here.
BTW I find the subtle sepia toning very nice for the kind of separation of the main subject from its background. Quite well balanced for me. It avoids exagerations but still it puts some emphasis onto the whole subject.
About composition, wouldn't it be better to bring him more to the left? I mean something like the attachment.¨
Cheers!
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/11/2008
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Hi Fadel,
I had a feeling that this would be the first one you would pick to comment on.
Thanks
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Fadel J
{K:13974} 11/11/2008
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Very nice shot Andre. The DOF created a very nice dreamy mood!
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/11/2008
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Thanks Ken,
I'm glad you like it... even if the detail on that bird's feathers is not the greatest. ;)
Andre
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/11/2008
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Thanks Rina,
As soon as I saw the way the light was coming through the pine trees on this little statue, I knew I had to take a few shots.
Statues don't normally get a lot of attention on this site. I suppose it's because people might tend to see the image as a photo of some other person's artwork.
In this case, I was lucky to be there at the right time to get that nice light. As I said to Ray, I thought the sepia gave it a nice surreal look.
Thanks again.
Andre
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/11/2008
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Thanks for noticing the small details Ray.
I think sometimes those kind of details can give an image that little extra spark. Sometimes it can be intentional and sometimes accidental, as in this case. I tried different versions of this image. The sepia seemed to suit it best. Sort of gives it a bit of a surreal look.
Thanks again.
Andre
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Ken Phenicie Jr.
{K:6273} 11/11/2008
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Beautiful shot, the back lighting and tones are very nice, the spider web behind his neck some how add to this, well done.
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Caterina Berimballi
{K:27299} 11/10/2008
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You know, I see a lot of images of statues and they always seem to me to be flat and lifeless. Wish more people would use light effectively, as you've done here.
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stingRay pt.4 .
{K:250401} 11/10/2008
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Beautifully lit my friend and shot with an excellent dof. The backlighting has revealed traces of spider web and I am sure that St. Francis would be the last to object to this. I love the use of sepia in your presentation and I have grown to prefer it's usage over BW these days. Well done to you Andre.......My very best wishes to you as always......Ray
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/10/2008
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Thanks Dave,
Glad you like it. I think the key to this one is the light coming from the top left side.
Andre
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Dave Stacey
{K:150877} 11/9/2008
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Very nice depiction of the statue among the trees, Andre! The toning suits this perfectly, as well.
Dave.
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