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David Cohen
{K:1759} 10/3/2004
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I like this one.....
I think that you applied the rule of thirds better in this shot but when I look at I look at 9 boxes and i might have flipped the 3rd image (the left one) upside down and then my eye would be drawn across the frame on a downward slant.
And to respond to Amna at the weddings that I attend the food is on the same level as the the bride and groom, infact my wife and I joke that if we ask my father-in-law about a wedding we don't mention it by the bride and grooms name but by what food they served.
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Zeev Scharf
{K:25603} 10/3/2004
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Great capture Hugo,very nice creative work here
Well done
I must compliment you for your in depth comments,
looking in every aspect of the picture,I am very grateful.Appreciate your commenting on "Green lonesome road"
I added you to my friends list
Best regards my friend
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Jose Ignacio (Nacho) Garcia Barcia
{K:96391} 10/2/2004
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marvelous tones. 7
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 10/1/2004
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Hi Emgy,
Thanks alot for your comments, its always a pleasure to read your extensive thoughts, not only on my photos, but also on those of others. I always feel they touch the essence of what I had in mind perfectly (Obviously, that can only apply to my photos, as I'm not qualified to judge the intensions of others...;o)
I always plan the sequence of shots, quite deliberately so, but not necessarily on consistent grounds. I spent several days rearranging the photos, exchanging them with other bits and pieces, ending up with a different solution every time. Finally, I'd settled for this sequence and composition, exactly on the grounds you described.
Maybe its not a good sign that it took me so long. Although it did fit nicely amongst the other shots in the album, I'm still not quite satisfied with the sequence as it is....
In the third one, I did plan each of the shots, and the way they would look and fit together prior to taking the photos. It's what makes the kick in composing a triptych.... I think the only way to fully see how the combination of three individual shots fit together is to look at the overview page in my portfolio with the three images in one row. With this series, I'm not too satisfied with that overview either....:)
Thanks alot for your constructive and indepth comment... Always very much appreciated!
Cheers,
Hugo
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Emgy Massidda
{K:60358} 9/29/2004
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Hugo!!!!!
You've been eating flowers at a wedding????? Hahaha??.
.So.... how did they taste? I hope you didn't get sick! - (Just kidding...) - I know that many flowers are edible and that in a few countries they are a common ingredient in the kitchen but....I've never heard of anything similar in this country.
I'm late again with my comments but, to be honest, I waited on purpose because I was very curious to see the following posts.
First of all, let me congratulate you with the originality of this series - Do I like it?
YES, very much. This image is very beautiful as I think that the composition expresses pretty well the unconventionality of the wedding. Moreover, the subject itself is the perfect reflection of an extravagant happening. Above all, I can feel here the pleasant atmosphere of an enjoyable and happy day expressed by the presence of the flowers.. This said, I?m certain that this series will give an extra dimension to the collection of wedding photos, adding the originality we hardly ever see in ?traditional? albums.
Further more, I can only say that I like the selective focus and the choice of angle for each shot. I believe you planned the whole thing and you did it superbly. You probably also planned the order of posting the shots, in order to create what you call (or used to call) ?tension? in the expectations of the viewer. Great achievement!!!
Hugs ? Emgy
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/26/2004
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Hi João, Thanks for your comment. Both you and Saeed commented, it IS impossible to make everybody happy... But that's also what makes UF so useful to learn and experiment and improve our work. Especially critisism is good to help one see their work from a different point of view, and take a few steps back and understand the flaws in your own photo, if you know what I mean.
About the centered focus as the eyecatcher, I know exactly what you mean, it's what I tried to achieve....;o) Thanks!
Cheers,
Hugo
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João Martins
{K:2754} 9/26/2004
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Hi Hugo,
As Saeed said in the other photo, when people do creativity is quite difficult to match everybody's taste.
For me, I like this one the most, it's a better and different composition, more original.
The other photo, gets the eye attention because the colours are more "confuse", not like this very dominant green.
Another eye cathcher in this photo is the centered focus. We see upper zone and lower zone out of focus, and that make the center even more intense. It seems that we want to "join" the 3 centers in just one horizontal composition.
I hope I made my self clear to you... (pour and confused english, I supose)
I'm looking forward to the final photo of this series.
Very original and fantastic compositions.
I always wondered what you Dutch people do with so many flowers... now I understand, you also eat them!!!:)) Serious, I would love to try this. Maybe on a visit to your Wonderful Country!
Cheers
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Sally A.
{K:4601} 9/26/2004
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Very nice, creative, i like the combination of all three. Blends well. I can have salad's day and night.:)
Good job.
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Peggy Christine Skinner
{K:26936} 9/26/2004
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I like this as three separate images Hugo but not side by side. They have beautiful soft colours, delectable textures and great lighting. I find it a tad distracting as each has its own hues and light. My eye wanders and can't focus on one aspect. Maybe a slight separation with white and the same thin brown line as surrounds the whole.
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Chris Spracklen
{K:32552} 9/24/2004
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Exceptional work, Hugo!!
An excellent idea beautifully executed!
My compliments!!
Best regards, Chris
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Thilo Bayer
{K:50358} 9/24/2004
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Dear Hugo,
there's not much to add at this point ;-)
If there is no direct purpose with this tryptich, that's fine for me. Probably I'm used to some meaning behind that when watching your great pictures =)
let's say it this way: I'm not so happy with the way you combined these three images as the transition is too hard for me.
Now I'm moving to the next in series =)
take care,
thilo
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/23/2004
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Hi Christian, thanks for your indepth comment. I agree with you on the DOF; it was kind of difficult to make that fit propperly without converting to major PS rework. It's a bit soft any how. When combining these three shots, I paid more attention to the light, which I think is consistent in the overview, than to the DOF. Thanks!
Cheers,
Hugo
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/23/2004
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Hi Arwa, Ofcourse your opinion matters! It helps melook at my shot differently, which makes me learn alot. I'm not sure what you mean by provoking, though.
As you correctly say, it's only the first one of three. I began to see the squashed and crowdy element you mention. As I've used this shot in a wedding album, the consistency with the other images places this one in a different perspective, which I can't recreate on UF. If you'll read my comment to Hermen and Thilo, you'll see what I mean.
I always appreciate your comment, thank you!
Cheers,
Hugo
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/23/2004
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Hi Thilo, as promised, a reply, which will be quite lenghty I'm affraid.
First, as I replied to Tom and Hermen, the colours are quite representative of what they were, the difference is due to a difference in lighting and placement of the dishes on the table. It was quite tasty, and that's still how I remember it..;o)
About the triptych, it's a different way of presentation. I use these kind of shots in a wedding album, mixed with a few overviews, inbetween the pages with the important stuff. It allows me to use various images on one page. The composition of the tree images, combined in one is not a standard thing. In this triptych, there will be three different images too.
Getting into the purpose of this triptych, apart from it's functional use is more difficult. It's not a common way of presentation, adjusted for it's coherence in the other shots of the wedding album. I guess that's more difficult to see on Usefilm, not having seen the wedding album. There's no specific meaning / point behind it, and there's not always a need for that!
Lastly, ofcourse I don't get you wrong! It not being your style happens to me too, occasionally, when I comment on your shots...;o) And that's completely allright. Can't please 'm all, but what I do atmire is your honesty and indepth critisism. It's something that also helps me improve my shots, as I get a chance to look at a specific image from a diffent point of view. That's what I was getting at in my comment to you too....
Thanks again, It's good to be back!
Take care,
Cheers,
Hugo
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Hermen Pen
{K:9168} 9/23/2004
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You are right Hugo, in my criticism I judged this photo 'individually'. In the series of the wedding reportage it makes an excellent variation.
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/23/2004
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Hi Hermen, thanks for your comment. I see what you mean. I think it's the difference in lighting that creates the difference in exposure. About the tastiness, much of that is lost in a close-up of a cold salad, I think. It depends strongly on the lighting. It's a bit busy, but then again, that's part of this triptych. The overall image will become clearer once I've posted the third shot, I promise!
I've used this approach on a number of times, it fits quite well in creating a new "chapter" for the wedding dinner. Only shots with happy, talking people tend to get boring, so I mix 'm up a bit....
Cheers,
Hugo
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/23/2004
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Hi Verena,
It's good to be back too! Thanks for your comment!
Cheers,
Hugo
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/23/2004
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Hi Tom, Thanks for your comment. The flowers actually tasted awesome...;o)
These shots were taken within a five minute span of eachother. The contrast of the different exposure was partially created by a slightly different angle towards the light, but after taking another look at the original shot, there also is a difference in brightness caused by a different light; two of the disches (the one on the left and the one on the right) were placed in a shadowy area, whereas the middle one stood in direct sunlight... (as the sun was setting, that didn't make much differentce, I could use virtually the same setting in each of those three shots on Aperture priority. EV and colour temp / white balance were left unchanged.
Cheers,
Hugo
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Christian Barrette
{K:21125} 9/23/2004
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Hello Hugo,
cretaive work on your part again. Each of the pictures is a bt... messy ? But the three togeteher combine into a sort of tapestry. It works because they are in the same hues, same shapes, and also because the light comes from the same direction in all three cases. It is, to me at least, reminescent of the panel paintings of the Art Nouveau. With this in mind, I miss a full DOF that would have revealed better the various lines drwan by the contour of the leaves and flowers.
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神 風
{K:10665} 9/23/2004
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I myself see alot of 'Insects' especially at 3000% magnification so Andrej is NOT really wrong at all, but you can keep on eating them Hugo if you find them tasty also ... LOL!
P.S. Drink alot of water now to 'flush' your system ... Okay?
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/22/2004
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Hi Andrej, I'm sure you mean Inserts, as there aren't any insects in this shot....:) is that what you meant?
Cheers,
Hugo
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Andrej V
{K:6693} 9/22/2004
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This is beyond my knowledge HUgo; ... I must say it's something ...not seen evry day. Nice combination, great dof in all three insects and very inovative.
Good choice of insects on all three segments!
Greets
Andrej
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/22/2004
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None what so ever, so I can't tell you anything else than that they're quite tasty.
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神 風
{K:10665} 9/22/2004
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Then why not nominate me for the 'Most Humorous Critic Award' ... even though the joke is on you!
P.S. I was serious btw or do you not have any botanical knowledge?
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/22/2004
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Hah hah hah. You're the funniest. Ever.
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神 風
{K:10665} 9/22/2004
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P.S. If there are indeed two more images to come in this series then I know quite medically for sure that some of us will experience calcification and uretha entrapments which are quite painful for at least men!
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神 風
{K:10665} 9/22/2004
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How many calories and do they cause kidney stones?
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Dan Lightner
{K:12684} 9/22/2004
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Very interesting image Ill have to try some thing like this , I like it alot.
Dan
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arwa abdullah
{K:34415} 9/21/2004
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Hi hugo welcome back
you were surely missed
Nice come back with a thought provoking image, I've looked at it over and over again and I still cant make up my mind of wither I like it or not (not that my opinion really matters)
U've given me such great constructive critiques before so I feel obliged to leave one too instead of just saying hay great pic (and it is a great pic by the way)
Heres my 2 cents about this image: Food picture should stir up the appetite and cravings, this image didn?t make me feel this way, maybe because its too squashed or too crowded?
but since it?s the first of a series its too early to judge
hope u didn?t mind my comment
Anyways welcome back :)
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Thilo Bayer
{K:50358} 9/21/2004
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Dear Hugo,
nice to see you back in duty ;-)
the image is quite difficult to comment on as it shows several layers of interest - and points to argue.
first of all, I adore the fresh green and yellow colors. that's something that makes this image special. second, the triptych... I admit that I don't get the point here. The actual connections are rather harsh, and I don't catch the idea of bringing these three single shots together - even if I read the about. triptych are always nice to see, but in this case, I don't see a purpose, just the means.
Don't get me wrong: I like the refreshing colors and the refreshing idea of a special food triptych. But that's definitely not my style ;-)
anyway, nice to have you back and I hope to see more stuff soon from you.
take care,
thilo
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Patty Morena
{K:16598} 9/21/2004
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Great idea! I like this composition very interesting.
Original and unusual collage.
Congrats
Patty
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Hermen Pen
{K:9168} 9/21/2004
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Hi Hugo,
good to see you are back :)
An unusual photo, I have some mixed feelings about it. I like the colours and the composition (with the three vertically aligned parts). On the other side, the overall image is very busy. The left panel is the odd one out for me... especially because of the dressing. It may have been very tasteful, but it does not look like that to me on a photo...
Nevertheless, I appreciate your exploration of new photographic fields :)
regards, Hermen
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Maria Luisa Vial
{K:36017} 9/21/2004
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Hi Hugo...
Welcome back!!!! I missed you amd your pictures!!!!
As always you came back with a very original idea... Never heard of eating flowers in a saldad... Comming bach to your picture... The idea is great and original... but there is something there that I do not like... I think It has to much on it, and it is very distracting... I cannot concentrate on it... It is like my eyes begin to go from one place to another and cannot focus in neither one of the pictures... Maybe it can be the vertical composition... I don't know... Nevertheles, I like very much how different the three abstracts are... And the colors are lovely...
Again weloome back... You were missed...
Cheers,
Maria
Cheers,
Maria
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Verena Rentrop
{K:15233} 9/21/2004
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Welcome back my dear friend!
I hope you enjoyed your break and free time from us ;) as long as you come back, we need you!
I'm getting really hungry when I look at this triptych, there are more than one view necessary to see the food between all the flowers, colours and the irritating starting moment to realize the three different parts.
Flowers are tasteful, indeed, but I wouldn't want to live like a cow, eating nothing else ;)
Cheers,
Verena
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tom rumland
{K:14874} 9/21/2004
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hugo, you're back! good to see you out and posting again ;^) i remember we spoke about this shot a while back. mostly in veiled references but enough to give me an idea of what you were going to do. i have to say, this is not what i thought i would see. when you mentioned edible flowers i imagined those sugar flowers they put on wedding cakes. how interesting - a flower salad. how was it?
i dig what you've done here. what jumps at me the most (other than the unusual subject for you) is the contrast of the different exposures. makes the middle pane appear to "float" above the other two and gives the impression of being a movable pane that could slide over the other two. like a sliding glass door. is that just EV adjustment or a slight color temp adjustment as well?
take care,
tom
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Regina Rianelli
{K:24147} 9/21/2004
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WOW......... Hugo!
You brought us a Yummy fancy buffet: Thank YOU!
Welcome Back!!!
You were missed!
from the thumbnail, i thought it was something out of a Bug's Life...
what a surprise when i saw the picture as a whole!
...to tell You truth, i felt some dizzy at first due to the enormous quantity of colours and appeals and different lights and all! ...then i layed back and realized -- from the cute framing -- that there were three piccies making a special show: it seems like a delicious bliss!
my Compliments for the creativity and for making us all STOP and look at... and carefully unveiling what the skilled Photographer was up to!
*wink* Veel SUCCESS!!!
pls say "hi" to Willem from me!
kind regards + Groetjes,
Regina
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Ursula Luschnig
{K:21723} 9/21/2004
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Hi Hugo,I like the composition of the three pictures and especially the colours a lot.For me it has the effect of ease and spontaneity.
IMHO,this would look great on the title of a
menu...
Kind regards,Ursula
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Gustavo Eulalio
{K:3777} 9/21/2004
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I'll keep an eye on 'em. Cheers.
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/21/2004
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Hi Gustavo, thanks for your sincere and honest comment. Much appreciated! I know it's a bit cluttered, especially as a stand alone, but as there are two more to come, things might become more clear and may fall into perspective.
Cheers,
Hugo
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Gustavo Eulalio
{K:3777} 9/21/2004
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Hi, Hugo. Nice idea. It would be great to put in a frame and hang on the wall.
Something however doesn't let me completely comfortable with this. Maybe it's the mess in the arranjement of the components (flowers, leaves, food). But then, most probably, this is what makes the picture. Whatever...
It's a great picture. Congrats.
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/21/2004
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Sure was yummy!
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Carlheinz Bayer
{K:14220} 9/21/2004
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Looks yummy. Good idea and well executed. Bravo!
C.
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/21/2004
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Hi Max,
Thanks for your elaborate comment and description. As discussed before, the diversity of opinions, styles and likes and dislikes of the UF photographers make this community as valuable as it is, and you are a huge part of that. I always value your oppinion highly!
In the last rays of evening sun, the wedding was very pleasant and leasurely. I enjoyed making their wedding reportage enormously, as everything radiated the joy of the day.... That might sound a bit corny, but it's the best way of putting it.
I always like mixing still life shots with the photos of the events themselves. It livens up the album, and enables the "incrowd" to enjoy the things around the couple and the entire day, for that matter afterwards. It's not only the people that make a wedding....;o) These shots were taken for that purpose....
Cheers,
Hugo
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Massimo Di Maggio
{K:-53658} 9/21/2004
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You Dutches put the flowers everywhere ;))) Just kidding? At first the image was so unusual that I thought to a UF bug ;) Reading your about then I understood.. Yes, we often need a bit of fun and photography is the best, more relaxing, more quiet and innocent way to spend the time, sincerely this kind of compositions is not my favourite, but it?s only a personal opinion, your work is good, nice and funny?. Certainly it was a very happy wedding!!! Bye Max :)
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Ahmet Baki Kocaballi
{K:13618} 9/21/2004
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Hi Hugo,
we missed you,
very interesting and original work, and very different point of view..
regards
Baki
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Richard Thornton
{K:26442} 9/21/2004
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Hey, good to see you back, Hugo. This has impact with so much color and the triptych idea works well. I would call this a flower salad!
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Orazio Minnella
{K:49417} 9/21/2004
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Elegant composition.Superb collage.Amazing colors and light.
Regards...Orazio
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Roberto Arcari Farinetti
{K:209486} 9/21/2004
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strabiliante..
an explosion of INSIDE!
just and great composition!
also i prefer that the photographer used the "about".. for just technic used!!
cheers
roby
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/21/2004
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Hi Saeed, thanks my friend! To still your hunger, I'm not a vegitarian... ) (Eventhough I must atmit these flowers taste quite good...)
Cheers,
Hugo
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Saeed Al Shamsi
{K:47735} 9/21/2004
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Well come back long time absent,, you came and provide an interest right through a mixture of vegetables and flowers a strange combination, but of high curiosity and newly subject ,do not tell me that you are vegetarian :) regards, Saeed
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NN
{K:26787} 9/21/2004
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Hi Hugo! Quite a salad you serve us! Tasty? Hmmm ... I like the part most to the right :) The dressing (frame) is quite good!
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Rob Ernsting
{K:8899} 9/21/2004
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Mooi gedaan. Maar voor een triptiek zou de scherpte diepte beter kunnen zijn naar mijn mening.
Ik heb een correctie gemaakt buj mijn "curves" Nog bedankt voor de moeite van een commentaar, dat is na de correctie helaas verdwenen. Groetjes, Rob.
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/21/2004
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Hi Roger, Thanks for the info, and comment, of course! As to the clearer impression, it's only the start of this triptych, in which the combination of shots will have to provide that image...
Cheers,
Hugo
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 9/21/2004
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The Japanese quite often serve flowers as part of the meal. I've learned that I don't really like the taste of chrysanthemums, for instance. (The Japanese word for this flower is easier to spell and remember, though: "kiku.") While quite in favour of three vertical panorama slices being welded into one frame, I would really have liked a clearer impression of what we are actually looking it in the individual pics.
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/21/2004
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Hi Carmen, thanks for your comment. I see what you meen by the vertical rectangular strips. Those are my only doubts.
I don't think a B&W conversion would do any good to this image, as it's primarily the fres tones and the lighting that makes it (for me at least...;o) Besides, converting it to B&W would make it only more dull than it already is, if you understand what I'm getting at.
Cheers,
Hugo
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 9/21/2004
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Ha Teunis, interessante gedachte om de middenstrook links te plaatsen. Ik heb dat bewust niet gedaan, om de volgende reden: het rose creeert een sterk opvallend element, en ik wilde de belichting iets boven het midden centreren. Als je tussen de wimpers door kijkt, zie je wat ik bedoel. Door het midden paneel links te plaatsen creeer je mijnsinziens een onbalans in de foto. Vandar deze keuze.
Dank je voor je commentaar,
Groeten,
Hugo
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Carmem A. Busko
{K:48785} 9/21/2004
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Hi, Hugo, I understand what you mean about work... and time.. I have been away from comments, too, and I?m feeling guilty... there are a lot of stunning pictures from friends that I can?t comment and give a feed back...
About this composition: the colors are well balanced.. and is a very creative work and subject... but I wouldn?t say I like it. I can?t explain it ...my english is not good.. but the line, the rectangular shape bothers me. Maybe another mask shape.. or a b&w version(or a monochromatic..)... I don?t know.. or several small squares like a chess table...can you understand? But I think it is a matter of taste.. maybe I?m still very traditional.
Anyway, is a well done collage, original and unusual, and it ?s well presented. The frame is perfect.
Cheers,
Carmem
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Amna Al Shamsi
{K:21795} 9/21/2004
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The idea is very interesting, I think you are the first photographer to concentrate on food during a wedding ;-)
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Paul's Photos
{K:35235} 9/21/2004
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so where is the salad dressing :) love the colors.. nice how you took a simple subject and made it special.. good work
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Teunis Haveman
{K:53426} 9/21/2004
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Hallo Hugo.
Mooi dat je er weer bent
Goede dagen gehad en een bruiloft er tussen door
Ik heb lang naar deze collage gekeken en vind in iede rgeval de gekozen kleuren en onderwerp mooi.
Alleen had ik het middenste gedeelte links geplaatst, ik vind dat hij nu de anderen wat verdringt en die zijn het interesantst
Maar de kleuren passen mooi bij elkaar
I thenk so
The middle part to left.
Teunis
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Gerhard Hoogterp
{K:4863} 9/21/2004
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Hmm.. from the thumbnail I though it was one of Teunis's flower/butterfly shots.. Although rather busy. Once opened it's clear it's not his, but it's still busy.. But not busy in the big city way, more busy in the "bazilian carnaval" way.. colors everywhere.. Joyful.. Bravo..
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