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Photographer Marcus Armani  Marcus Armani {Karma:36599}
Project #19 Above Your Head Camera Model Canon 30D
Categories From The Field
Wildlife
Film Format
Portfolio Birds In Flight
Lens Canon 400 F/4 DO
Uploaded 7/15/2006 Film / Memory Type ISO 320
    ISO / Film Speed
Views 983 Shutter 1/2000
Favorites Aperture f/8.0
Critiques 42 Rating Critique Only Image
Location City -  Newark
State -  CA
Country - United States   United States
About I have realized from other shots that a fence or other object that I would typically see as a distraction can work well within the shot at times, not sure if this is one of those times, let me know if the fence takes away from the shot? Thanks.
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There are 42 Comments in 1 Pages
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Charmian Vistaunet Charmian Vistaunet   {K:142} 8/13/2008
This is definitely "one of those times" where an otherwise ugly distraction in a photo can actually add to the picture. I say this because most of your bird photos are pretty similar and basic, but as I was scrolling down through your thumbnails, this one really caught my eye!! Wonderful composition!

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Sheryl Phillips Sheryl Phillips   {K:2728} 9/10/2006
The fence is essential to the shot in my opinion. It is wonderful! What a capture! The owls' eye is piercing and so sharp, and you caught the wings at just the right moment! Great job Marcus!
~Sheryl

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Jose Ignacio (Nacho) Garcia Barcia Jose Ignacio (Nacho) Garcia Barcia   {K:96391} 8/15/2006
stunning composition. outstanding.

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Ciprian Ilie   {K:13571} 8/15/2006
Not the prettiest fence, but it gives you a sense of scale. As I know nothing much about birds I would have thought this specimen is much bigger. Fantastic detail in the eye, and lovely posture.

Regards,
Ciprian

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Hesham Abouzekry   {K:15927} 8/12/2006
i see aeroplane more a bird.
faboulous shot.
H.A

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Guido Tweepenninckx Guido Tweepenninckx   {K:20076} 7/21/2006
absolute beauty.
suggesting the bird was sitting on the fence a moment ago.
Beatiful wingspan.
price winner this one.

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James Cook James Cook   {K:38068} 7/20/2006
I am not bothered by the fence. At the same time, both of the other images are good. I would be inclinded to use the original because I prefer that kind of photographic work.

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Pawel Kwasnicki Pawel Kwasnicki   {K:9651} 7/20/2006
ah, this is amazing Marcus! the moment and place where our civilization and nature meet, great DOF and colors! Best regards, Pawel

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Andre Denis Andre Denis   {K:66407} 7/19/2006
Hi Marcus,
I'm a little late getting to this one. I saw the Falcon shot with the out of focus background before this one. In my comment to you on that image, I wrote that I liked what you have started to do with the backgrounds. Now you take it one step further with this one.
Yes, I think it is a very good idea to try and include secondary subject matter in some of your images. I am also in total agreement with Saeed on blurring the fence slightly. It doesn't have to be much, but a slight blur can make such a nice difference in the depth of the shot.

On another topic, that fantastic yellow eye pretty well steals the show in this image anyway :)
Andre

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Asim Roy Asim Roy   {K:10051} 7/18/2006
Fantastic creative capture Marcus, lovely cut of fence with a great details, love, asim

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Bruce Harper   {K:5305} 7/17/2006
I think the fence should be left in, and left unblurred. Alternatively the mesh could be removed altogether but the post left as is and the shot reframed.

As others have said, the fence explains why the bird is flying at such an angle. When the fence is blurred to look out of focus that reason disappears, the connection between the bird and fence is broken.

It almost goes without saying that its a good shot of the owl of course.

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Edward Ghoti   {K:5514} 7/17/2006
Wow, wow, wow. Great shot as always Marcus.

I have to agree with the many who commented on the eye, it really helps make the is a truly amazing image.

All the best,
Ed

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Jinggoy Montenejo Jinggoy Montenejo   {K:7736} 7/17/2006
Hey buddy! I guess I don't need to put in my $0.02 here, you've heard from most already. It really is an excellent shot.
The sky was clear yesterday afternoon, no raptors were in sight. Oh well. Take care!

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Paulo Uemura Paulo Uemura   {K:2330} 7/17/2006
Ual!!! Perfect moment, composition!!!
And you are always a gentleman, tks again!

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andree lerat andree lerat   {K:17476} 7/16/2006
This is a superb shot. A beautiful visual of the physiology of flight. The fence provides information about the position of the falcon and the fact that it is in perfect alignment with the frame makes it a wonderful addition to the composition. :) Andree

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Markus Scholz Markus Scholz   {K:23722} 7/16/2006
For me, it works very well with the fence, because the fence gives reason to the movement of the bird. Fantastic capture, Marcus!

Regards, Markus

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Howie Mudge Howie Mudge   {K:27933} 7/16/2006
Your wildlife photography just gets better and better and I actually like the inclusion of the fence in this one :)

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Marcus Armani Marcus Armani   {K:36599} 7/16/2006
Thanks Dave, This has been a confusing thing for me as far as what to take out and what to leave in..
These are juvenille burrowing owls, the same as Jinggoys here. http://www.usefilm.com/Image.asp?ID=1141454
They do have really long wings for there small size..

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Lana M Lana M   {K:811} 7/16/2006
I like the fence. I feel you can really sense the mothion fo the owl leaving the it and taking flight.

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Dave Holland Dave Holland   {K:13074} 7/16/2006
Not at all, Markus, it works great. I have been amazed that you get such crisp focus on moving subjects with a long lens. You must have better lighting down south.

I would hesitate to clone out such a dominant object. Natural to me means mostly unaltered.

I see it is banded. Is this the short eared owl, with that butterfly-like flight cadence?

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Dave Stacey Dave Stacey   {K:150877} 7/16/2006
A remarkable shot, any way you look at it, Marcus! I prefer wildlife shots to be as natural as possible, in other words without man made objects visible, even if the shot was taken in an urban setting. Having said that I have my share of photos with bird feeders etc. visible. I like the idea of the blurred fence though, to give the reason for the radical inflight manoeuvre, but not distract from the bird. It certainly is subjective, depending entirely on what you want to make of the photograph, and any one version is still a very well taken inflight image.
Dave.

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Robert Chin   {K:22282} 7/16/2006
I like the composition with fence because it gives the reason for the position of the bird,very good capture Marcus.With the catchlighted eye and the talons sticking out like that makes this one of your more unusual images but never the less maintaining your excellence.
Re your 'master' tag,it`s just our way of saying
how high we hold you in in-flight bird photography.When friends see my bird images here and start praising me about the beauty of them,
I told them to check out your images because in comparision to you I have a long way to go.Sure there are other excellent Wildlife photographers
but you are the ONE I set as my standard of Excellence.
Take care Marcus and keep posting those wonderful images.
Robbie

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Marcus Armani Marcus Armani   {K:36599} 7/16/2006
Thanks Jason, Im getting some really good ideas and feedback here, a completly cloned out fence as i chose not to post, a blurred out post and fence which looks nice, now I will try one with only the post!

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Jason Mckeown Jason Mckeown   {K:22200} 7/15/2006
lloks great Marcus, the fence is a ditraction, might of taken the fence out but not the post as this gives you the impression that it has taken off from there.

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Mary  Jane Mary  Jane   {K:5867} 7/15/2006
Wow she looks so small to have long wings:).As i keep telling you the picture with a litlle about makes it more interesting .As i can deduce that
the presence of fence is relevant as its where the bird came from perching to take off thus the title just off the fence so its not a distraction. Besides the color of the fence blended with the background. Nice capture!
MJ

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Marcus Armani Marcus Armani   {K:36599} 7/15/2006
Thanks Saeed! Those are two very good examples of what could have been done, I have a version with the fence cloned out, which was my first corse of action.
Then I wondered how that fence would impact the shot in others eyes. I like the fence just blurred much and didnt think of that, only with or without. My only though about the fence being in the shot was that he was perched there thus making it a actual part of the process to capture him, I think I like the blurred fence most! Thanks for taking the time with this, very much appreciated...

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// // // //   {K:6081} 7/15/2006
Bravo marcus,very well done like allways.
Hassan

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Saeed Al Shamsi Saeed Al Shamsi   {K:47735} 7/15/2006
out of focus..2

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Saeed Al Shamsi Saeed Al Shamsi   {K:47735} 7/15/2006
Although am not experienced in capturing Birds in flight, but overall techniques of composing am a ware off, so I put my humble knowledge if worth it :)
I might be a little bit different from other colleagues before me, am with eliminating such distraction objects.
In general taking shots one should always be aware of subjects within vicinity( back or foreground) of the main subject, that may clutter it or clash with the atmosphere you are after, such as this a man made object in an otherwise natural looking scene.
Especially one obvious subject like this fence with clear sharp details.
It might be acceptable if out of focus and the shape is not competent with the main subject.
IMHO, either to be cloned or to send it as out of focuses elements.(as the attachments)
But last I think you can keep it as it is we’ve been born with different idea and opinion and it is healthy is n`t it :)
Saeed

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Hanggan Situmorang Hanggan Situmorang   {K:37833} 7/15/2006
Wow, brilliant composition and what a moment captured here, Marcus. Great DOF and sharpness. Excellent!

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Larry Fosse Larry Fosse   {K:66493} 7/15/2006
Love the detail & DOF Marcus...you're absolutely right about the composition...it gives everything some context

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Gregory McLemore Gregory McLemore   {K:35129} 7/15/2006
Excellent capture I like the different angle caught, also in this scene the fence does not detract, overall unusal yet pleasing.

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majid masood majid masood   {K:6931} 7/15/2006
Very hard to focus such moving bids, you have done it great!!!

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Phillip  Minnis    Phillip  Minnis    {K:13131} 7/15/2006
Oh, Marcus, you have done it again! Another fabulous bird image!

As usual, wonderful colours, details and comp! I don't mind the fence - I think it adds to the image. I could take it or leave it! Now, that's sitting on the fence!!! LOL Pardon the pun!

Cheers

Phil

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greg collins   {K:12273} 7/15/2006
I think the fence works well here. It adds another shape to the image without being to distracting. A well captured bird with good detail and the mixture of blurred colours in the background. Nice work.
Regards Greg

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Bill Ciavarra   {K:10216} 7/15/2006
Hi Marcus..
"Critiquer's Corner"

Very subjective, I not sure, my first gut reaction was to clone out the chain link fence..almost as if there is two subjects, but it does show the skills of birds in flight to maneuver around object so gracefully and not collide with objects in their path.

IMO, I would like it better without the fence, but with a bit more space at the bottom.

In any case, it’s a great in-flight capture.

Bill C.

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Jose Ignacio (Nacho) Garcia Barcia Jose Ignacio (Nacho) Garcia Barcia   {K:96391} 7/15/2006
fperfect shot. magnificxent. great capture.

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Laura Spell Laura Spell   {K:24080} 7/15/2006
Good capture of the bird in flight. The colors, light, and details are all very good.

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Toshi  Toshi    {K:11924} 7/15/2006
Hi Marcus,

I'm always in favor of having other subjects with in-flight bird captures - it gives the image a good sense of depth and puts everything into perspective. This is of course not to take away from previous uploads where the sky is the only backdrop - not much choice there with some of these birds flying high ;)

This photo is well composed with a perfect amount of fence included and enough space to the right where the bird is headed. Excellent work!

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Judi Liosatos Judi Liosatos   {K:34047} 7/15/2006
I like it. The angle of the wings accentuates the shape of the fence. The way the owl is looking directs the viewer across the image. Good work.

www.judigraphics.com

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Alessandro Capelli Alessandro Capelli   {K:34805} 7/15/2006
Hi Marcus, the fence works really well here, it balance the composition..another great bird's shot for you..I like so much the yellow eye of this owl! Very well done!
All the very best to you my friend, Ale

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Riny Koopman Riny Koopman   {K:102911} 7/15/2006
Fabulous shot Marcus. Great timing, focus, and dof. Everything works! Riny

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