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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 8/7/2005
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I see you jumped in with an offer to Al about panoramas. My guess is this feature won't make it into the present upgrade and we'll be lucky to get anything until after it all settles down... Hope I'm wrong. I offered to introduce a very knowledgeable and helpful person who would help with setting defaults on the server-side stuff, but didn't even get an acknowledgement from Al. That tells me how busy he must be (or perhaps he just thought I was being pushy)! Did you try the viewer I suggested? Or one of the many others available? Ken Krishnan is also interested in immersive (VR) panoramas... we have a nucleus all ready when Usefilm starts to cater for us. If it doesn't soon, though, I shall just have to move on!
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 8/6/2005
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There are some really excellent VR viewers with all sorts of bells and whistles, mostly free. I use PixLite, the free viewer from PixAround.com (that's from memory but a Google search should find it quickly if I'm wrong). This is quite functional. Select the "cylindrical" and "360-degree" options for your JPEG. If you haven't carefully matched the L and R ends, you won't get a smooth, seamless transition. But if you've got that right, you can pan around the entire panorama until you get giddy. Have fun!
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Michael Kanemoto
{K:22115} 8/5/2005
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Roger:
I have not tried a VR viewer - that is a great idea, especially from my first 360. Any ideas on a good one to use?
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 8/5/2005
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Michael, have you tried viewing this through a VR viewer utility, so that you can set a window and pan around the picture and zoom in and out? This lets everyone see all the other photo possibilities that were there with different FOV and framing! If Al can follow through on his commitments, this should be possible on Usefilm in the not TOO distant future.
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Bart Aldrich
{K:7614} 8/4/2005
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Woof! What a spot and what a nice capture.
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Michael Kanemoto
{K:22115} 8/4/2005
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Hermen:
That autostitch program is simply --- wonderful. I let it loose on the highest quality settings last night on a few of these and it performed beautifully. Set it up, let it churn for 30 minutes to an hour, and voila! a very very good result each time.
Clearly outperformed the other packages I have seen and it was free!
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Michael Kanemoto
{K:22115} 8/3/2005
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Downloaded - will try tonight on this bad, bad, bad, photo.
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Hermen Pen
{K:9168} 8/3/2005
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Michael, unfortunately I can not put the link here, Usefilm seems to prohibit links in messages. But if you enter 'Autostitch' in Google, you will find the site where you can download it at the top of the list.
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Michael Kanemoto
{K:22115} 8/3/2005
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Hermen:
You are correct about the cloulds - unfortunately with a 360 you are eventually going to have to shoot into the sun, and with panoramics you have to keep the F-Stop and exposure stable through all the shots.
I have some creative ideas on how to recover the cloud detail from other shots I took at the same time, but as for a clean shot I'm afraid that the detail is indeed gone... c'est la vie...
I'm just happy to get good detail across most of the shot.
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Michael Kanemoto
{K:22115} 8/3/2005
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Herman:
I have not used that program - just the Adobe, Canon, and Arcsoft programs. The Arcsoft program blows away the Canon Photostitch and Adobe Photomerge for hand helds... where can I try the autostitch program?
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Hermen Pen
{K:9168} 8/3/2005
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The panorama does look very good, indeed seemless! It is a pity of the blown out clouds, maybe a good idea to underexpose a little bit in these lighting conditions (a ND grad filter would be ideal but probably not very practical for panorama shots). It is still possible to lighten up the darker parts in digital post processing, the other way around is impossible because detail in the highlights is lost.
By the way - do you know Autostitch? I think it is a very neat program, completely automatic and still good results.
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jude .
{K:14625} 8/3/2005
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Beautiful panoramic capture, Michael. I can smell the clean, crisp air from here. Lovely.
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Michael Kanemoto
{K:22115} 8/3/2005
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Carolyn:
Thanks - I'm sad to say this was not the most beautiful location of the hike, but probably the one that will turn out from all the photos I took. There is a basin a little further up which has three waterfalls feeding into it - not really photogenic, but in person simply amazing. Looking over the shots I think I blew out the sky and didn't get a "great" shot.
This one though has the advantage of a lot of nifty details and interesting mountains and rocks.
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Carolyn Wiesbrock
{K:14051} 8/3/2005
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Impressive work here, Michael. An excellent panoramic view of this beautiful location.
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